I want a cobra, how and why

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by leroy17

I appears your have concerned about a Chev.

Here is a way of looking at it.

It's like beer, pizza and sex............ Even if you think it's bad..... It's still good.

And if you have any one of these and your mates don't, well you got something to brag about.

Hey Leroy, not so much a problem as i dont get why you put a chev in a ford. Its like HSV v FPR, in my head theres stuff as a bloke you dont do, and that i thought was one of them, but times are obviously a changin.

My logic tells me the reasons are more of a cost issue, getting it past adr approval or it fits better. I dont know the answer and that was what i was trying to understand.

[Modena]

Originally Posted by Hoity

Hey Leroy, not so much a problem as i dont get why you put a chev in a ford. Its like HSV v FPR, in my head theres stuff as a bloke you dont do, and that i thought was one of them, but times are obviously a changin.

My logic tells me the reasons are more of a cost issue, getting it past adr approval or it fits better. I dont know the answer and that was what i was trying to understand.

you keep saying it's a Ford. You know a Cobra was a British AC Ace with a Ford engine it, right?

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by Modena

you keep saying it's a Ford. You know a Cobra was a British AC Ace with a Ford engine it, right?

Yeah i read up on the history, but in my little head its always been a ford cobra or a Ford AC cobra, Shelby ford cobra. I know shelby wanted/tried for chev motors first. Its never been a chev cobra, shelby and ford, dont know want Carroll did with chev?

Shelby made it famous with a ford motor, its why we have a forum like this.

[Aussie Mike]

Originally Posted by Hoity

Hey Leroy, not so much a problem as i dont get why you put a chev in a ford. Its like HSV v FPR, in my head theres stuff as a bloke you dont do, and that i thought was one of them, but times are obviously a changin.

My logic tells me the reasons are more of a cost issue, getting it past adr approval or it fits better. I dont know the answer and that was what i was trying to understand.

Who says it's a Ford? The car was originally built by AC. Prior to Shelby getting involved they ran AC, Bristol and Ford 6 cylinder engines.

Yes they were sold through Ford dealers in the US and Shelby has had close ties to Ford ever since (to Chrysler too).

If you are a purist and love your Fords then go with a Ford motor (I've owned plenty and still own one). What ever floats your boat.

I had the option of choosing a Ford motor but I chose the LS motor because I believe it was technically so much better than the old Windsor motor.

It's hard not to argue with a compact light weight all aluminium engine with it's deep skirted block and 6 bolt main bearing caps. O ring gaskets throughout etc. Huge aftermarket support and the factory ECU is easily re-tunable. They make 400HP without even turning a spanner and with good fuel economy. Throw a cam and some head porting at it and look out.

The advantage of building your own car is you can do it your way and not give a damn what anyone else thinks. Stick a triple rotor 20B turbo Mazda rotary in it if you like You would have the same result.... A lightweight frighteningly fast sports car that turns heads and starts conversations wherever you drive it.

Cheers

[spookypt]

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

Who says it's a Ford? The car was originally built by AC. Prior to Shelby getting involved they ran AC, Bristol and Ford 6 cylinder engines.


Cheers

You sure Mike about the 6 cyl FORD?

Exert "History of the 1962-1967 Shelby Cobra"
The AC Ace had utilized the pre-war BMW 2-liter, 6-cylinder engine, which was going out of production. Understanding that AC needed a replacement motor, Shelby tapped into his Ford connections to user their lightweight 260ci V-8. In the process, Shelby managed to get both sides to agree that the resultant sports car would be manufactured under the Shelby name. etc etc tec

Geez if BMW has some bloodline my cobra must be more genuine than I thought!

[Aussie Mike]

Originally Posted by spookypt

You sure Mike about the 6 cyl FORD?

I was referring to the Ruddspeed AC Ace. Ken Rudd fitted 2.6L Ford Zephyr 6 cylinder motors. My understanding is it was an option back in the day. It was also at the time the supply of Bristol motors was drying up.

I think the AC 2L six was their own design but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure the Bristol 6 was a BMW design that was taken as part of the war reparations after WW2.

Cheers

[spookypt]

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

I was referring to the Ruddspeed AC Ace. Ken Rudd fitted 2.6L Ford Zephyr 6 cylinder motors. My understanding is it was an option back in the day. It was also at the time the supply of Bristol motors was drying up.

I think the AC 2L six was their own design but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure the Bristol 6 was a BMW design that was taken as part of the war reparations after WW2.

Cheers

I was hoping mate that I may have had some lineage kudos. LOL

[Aussie Mike]

Originally Posted by spookypt

I was hoping mate that I may have had some lineage kudos. LOL

Your BMW link is definitely via the Bristol connection. Check out some of the history of Bristol. It's interesting reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Cars

I reckon the Bristol engine was a neat looking bit of kit. The head looks pretty cool with the carbs in the center.



Here's the Ruddspeed Ford Zephyr 6 version



Cheers

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

.....The advantage of building your own car is you can do it your way and not give a damn what anyone else thinks....

Yes! Absolutely!

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

..... Stick a triple rotor 20B turbo Mazda rotary in it if you like ....

Hey...wait a minute...

Cheers!
Glen