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Old 03-23-2017, 07:34 PM
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Default Govt cracking down on 1965 cobras

I was chatting to a NSW rep this am who was telling me cobra owners who have their cars registered as a 1965 car and were made after 85 are being called into the RMS pits and being de-plated on the spot as they fail to comply to 2001.

Interesting that RMS have taken this on. Someone must have pee'd someone off but it makes genuine rego'd pre-85 cars (left or right hooker) a scarce commodity now indeed. Stef, Dons and Craigs and one or 2 more maybe?

Its going to make those that have their cars rego'd as 65's on historic plates or normal plates and not compliant a little nervous if they haven't been called in yet.

In hindsight Im glad I didn't proceed with buying Tony Denny's RCR GT40 that he has in his museum. As although it was imported and is registered as a 65, Im not sure how you could put any value on it now as its un-registerable unless you changed a lot of stuff.

Some are arguing that they brought it in, in good faith as a 65 as that whats it was rego'd as in the US, but you'd be a brave man to make that argument if you didn't pay the duty value representing the value of a 65 cobra. Cant have your cake and eat it too I suppose.

Perhaps bullet dodged?
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Scary stuff.
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Hang on...what date is it ?
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Oh, so they are not cracking down on 1965 Cobras, only people claiming to have a 1965 Cobra when they don't. Have you been reading Donald's tweets again????
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I heard a rumour (yes, let's be clear - a rumour) that someone local to my area had a heavily modified car on historic plates and the RMS turned up with a warrant and removed the historic rego plates and the compliance plates from his car so that it can never be registered again. The historic rego doesn't allow for modifications.
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Interesting Treeve,

If that happened, and the car could be modified to pass ICV engineering, could it not be registered as an ICV? Ive often wondered that about written off cars also - they now go on a cannot be registered list, but technically, if repaired correctly should be ICV roadworthy and could be registered as such?
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And you have to get a VIN, and the RMS will likely inspect the vehicle, as well as you having to convince the Certifier that you're not doing a dodgy. A certifier will know that a car which looks like it should have a VIN shouldn't need a VIN number application... for example a mass produced car. If I come across a vehicle without plates, I get the RMS to confirm the vehicle identity for me.

They're pretty hot on this stuff - moral of the story is don't do the wrong thing and you won't have to worry about the consequences.

To answer your question: basically no. They will determine it is never to be registered again and will keep track of a number of details that they won't let be registered again (for example your engine number will also be black listed).

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And you have to get a VIN, and the RMS will likely inspect the vehicle, as well as you having to convince the Certifier that you're not doing a dodgy. A certifier will know that a car which looks like it should have a VIN shouldn't need a VIN number application... for example a mass produced car. If I come across a vehicle without plates, I get the RMS to confirm the vehicle identity for me.

They're pretty hot on this stuff - moral of the story is don't do the wrong thing and you won't have to worry about the consequences.

To answer your question: basically no. They will determine it is never to be registered again and will keep track of a number of details that they won't let be registered again (for example your engine number will also be black listed).
This is nasty...BUT there are a lot of shonkey mods on all sorts of cars on historic and club plates. It is one of the big things that makes the rms take such actions and develop a negative attitude to "different" cars.
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Jayzus I'm glad we don't have to deal with that level of crapolla. I feel for you guys.
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Jayzus I'm glad we don't have to deal with that level of crapolla. I feel for you guys.
I suspect we'll see that here at some point. When I imported my car in 2014 and had it inspected I was told there were a number of Cobra replicas registered in the province (Saskatchewan) as 1965 or 1966 Cobras (a.k.a. originals). The authorities are aware of it, the big question is whether there's a will to do something about it.
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