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sambo · #1 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 06:00 PM

Todd, the T56 6 spd manual is around $6000 new. I've seen them for as little as $1500 second hand. I'm looking at getting the engine/box/ecu, in fact the whole box and dice new (LS2) for around $14,000.

Rebel1 · #2 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sambo

Todd, the T56 6 spd manual is around $6000 new. I've seen them for as little as $1500 second hand. I'm looking at getting the engine/box/ecu, in fact the whole box and dice new (LS2) for around $14,000.

Now that IS a good deal sambo. How you doin that?

schipps · #3 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote from:- Todd Knight: What sort of $$ for a the gear box... I have a project in the wind.

Guys,

I got a fully reconditioned T56 with braided lines. Had the shift changed to a centre shift ( specially for Cobras) with a Hurst shifter from mal Wood Automotive in Warwick , Qld. for $4370. Mal is one of those guys who loves what he does and it certainly shows in his work.

http://www.tremec.com.au/

cheers

sambo · #4 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebel1

Now that IS a good deal sambo. How you doin that?

I had a chat with Warwick Harrison, I think they get them through Ballarat Holden Surplus down here in Vic. Also Bay City Holden - I've got my notes at home, can't remember which one offered that price.

Luke Gillett · #5 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sambo

Todd, the T56 6 spd manual is around $6000 new. I've seen them for as little as $1500 second hand. I'm looking at getting the engine/box/ecu, in fact the whole box and dice new (LS2) for around $14,000.

Hi Sambo,
I'm also looking at the LS2/T56 combo. I've already ordered my gearbox, but am still on the search for an LS2. I'm curious to know where you can get the whole lot for $14k

The quotes I've had so far is $9k for an LS2 crate engine or about $14k for the engine/starter/altenator/flywheel/clutch/ECU and engine loom.

$14k including a new gearbox sounds like top deal

Luke....

sambo · #6 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 07:07 PM

Luke - perhaps I've crossed some wires there. Let me check my notes tonight - it might be excluding the box. Apologies in advance if that's the case!

Personally I don't think the LS2 is worth the extra money over the L76. Displacement on demand is nice but remember these cobras weigh significantly less than HSVs and will use a lot less fuel to begin with.

Rebel1 · #7 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 07:29 PM

Sambo. The DOD is NOT implemented on the L76. The block is machined for the capability but Holden did not implement it. Most of the DOD hardware fits to the front of the block and it will not fit in the holden body.

The difference between the L76 and the L98 as currently used in the VE is the L98 is devoid of any DOD machining or casting bosses.

Leastwise thats what I'm told.

Tenrocca · #8 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 07:55 PM

The Ballarat Holden mob have advertised LS2's on Ebay for as cheap as $7500 no accesories. As recently as a couple of weeks ago I think.

As a Package in a low km wreck (30k) Ive seen a LS2\T56 combo with all accesories for around the $10k mark. Reamined unsold at $10k if I remember correctly.

I have a auto search on Ebay for thsoe type of key words, and track the prices their pretty regularly. Its done nothing but convince me to hold off as long as I can, as the prices keep falling and falling. Also I think that as the LS1 has become the single most popular engine choice for current cobra builders, there would be a bit of bragging rights to say you have 6 litres...not just 5.7.

I wonder if this lot of surplus motors is a result of the fall in holden sales - laying people off and all.

Rebel1 · #9 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 08:15 PM

For any1 wanting to know how the DoD works see here:
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...ne_technology/

Tenrocca you may very well be correct in which case us cobra fellas will benefit.

However, the surplus sell out of the L76 is as a result of Holden now using the L98 as they elected to not implement DoD at this stage, so all the L76 stock has to go. Eventually Holden/HSV will be forced to use DoD as emission requirements demand.

Cheers

Plums · #10 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 08:46 PM

I guess it really depends what you want.... You could put a cam and springs in an LS1 for the same money that a stock LS2 will cost you, and end up with heaps more power.

The new generation 6 litre engine is certainly enticing, but it limits tuning possibilities with the E38 and E40 ECU's.

Down the track I think I'll be getting a 6 litre block and adding a stroker crank. Capacity will end up being 427CI which seems to ring a bell for some reason

This will also allow me to keep the Delphi LS1/6 PCM which gives me much greater tuning flexibility.

Beejay · #11 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 09:12 PM

I bought my T56 for $550, but then it costed me another $1500 for Mal Wood to rebuild back to new.

Still a good deal I guess.

I bought my 2005 LS1 with 13,000 Km complete with everything including loom, pedal box, exhaust etc. for $4,300. If I spend a couple of grand on mods I think I will be able to get LS2 type power levels.

Gotta love the Chevs for Hp per dollar!

Ben

sambo · #12 (**permalink**) 03-13-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebel1

Sambo. The DOD is NOT implemented on the L76.

Just to clarify, that's what I was saying - I might've worded it better though.

I meant that the LS2 does provide DOD, but at a price - and who cares at the end of the day? These engines turn a Cobra into a weapon regardless.

With regards to LS1/LS2, guys down here in Melbourne are finding it harder to justify euro 3 compliance to VicRoads and that's what the LS2/L76 gives us.

I'm waiting on a quote for an L76 crate engine supplied with all accessories, ecu, pcm, loom, pulleys, starter, alt, etc plus the necessary software edits to bypass airbag checks etc. Basically a price to purchase what Holden are currently putting in the SS Commodore, minus clutch and gearbox. I'll keep you posted.