Noise polution

[Rebel1]

Queensland Dept of transport has purchased several auto noise/camera units for unmanned roadside use.

Also been told the Department has received many objections from "qualified" labs that the standard is un-enforceable. Seems the standard is so low that intake noise is now a major contributing factor and legislation has no standards for intake noise to be factored from roadside testing.

Sign of the time folks.

[Philm]

I am not sure how this can work, when getting my car engineered a stone stuck in the tyres flung into the inner guard and that was a failed pass.

I can see a lot of "lab" time spendt on disputed fines.

I know this has been discussed many times before, but a typical cobra owner is not the rat bag type mucking arround causing concern. I know that I short shift arround and "rarely" go over the speed limit.

If only we could register our cars as rebodied 32 fords then we would enjoy the same freedom the Hotrod boys have

Phil

[Rebel1]

Phil, The only way I can see it work is for the National cobra club to implement their own standards as did the hot rod fellas.

The Cobra can then be removed from ICV definition and policed by the State Cobra Clubs.

Being classed as an ICV is the crux of the problem, but I can't identify any other definition that can include the Cobra and the various exemptions we really require.

I have had discussions with a local engineer who was one of those instrumental in writing the hot rod manuals, procedures and standards.

What we now face is exactly what confronted them in the past.

Maybe on a national scale we need to increase membership fees with a view to paying " engineering consultants" to write a manual/standards. An edited version of the hot rod standards would be a good starting point.

Whilst many of us have taken the decision to use later compliant engines we still face the existing ( and gonna get worse) problem of noise, ground clearance, wipers, and other yet to be implimented safety ADR inclusions. (Air bags, ABS and Traction control etc.)

[Philm]

Les,
I know that the SA have been working on this issue for a while, it may take a contribution from all chapters to give this some momentum.

The point that bugs me is the issue of use, this year our Cobra has spent more time on stands than it has on its own wheels and in actually driving may have only done 500kms this year.

Common sence seams to be lost in this issue, I would like the 1/10 rule, we comply to one tenth of the rules as the cars are only used 1/10 of the time.

Yes my car is loud and yes its emissions could be better but the few times a month when it is on the street does it matter.

Phil

[Rebel1]

Exactly my point Phil.

Most cobras are weekend toys. Very few are daily drivers. However, whilst we are classed as an ICV we are bound by current ADR's.

Dare I also say that most cobras are well tuned. Even the carby engines are well tuned and I'd guess clean as opposed to other carby clangers on the road.

Queensland Transport now says you can use any engine you like but you have to prove it complies. The problem is no testing station.

It is my argument that a stroked 351 Windsor, with aftermarket ECU, 4 barrel throttle body, bouncing off the O2 sensors on the highway would easily pass.....but how do you prove it?.

[stefanog]

Don't know what to say

If this becomes enforced where do we Cobraphiliacs go?

I, for one, would be a prime target, offender numero uno! Too low, Too loud, you name it.

Phil, like you I stick to the speed limit wherever possible, a "blip" every now and then will now be a thing of the past as you worry if one of these camera/noise monitors are close by.

A worry indeed.

Makes me angry!

Stef

[spookypt]

Well time for me to chime in on this.. On the weekend I did some work on my car... As I was tinkering away I heard something interesting park in the side street off the cafe's. It was a very nice HOT ROD with a Wieland Supercharger stikcing up out of its air hole and running very load and live side pipes.... The thing was NOISY TUff and LEEEGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAL!

My little jap v8 the way it's set up is not...... Why??? Same road, same time but not the same REGO! Should I register it as a HOT rod so as I be like this guy or should I run the gauntlet everytime I go out on the street?

Sure he can't drive it as much as I can under his rules BUT as least he can do it without the worry of DOT running him off the road... Or maybe what he has was illegal too under the rodders guidelines..

I'm in the same boat as stef and PHil..... but if I had my car any other way I wouldn't like it!

Me thinks its time to build something new.............. Hmmmm

SpookyPT