Dyno run

[boxhead]

Originally Posted by Doubledip

Boxhead , how bout you re read sideshows last post.. it wasnt aimed at you but at another forum where the bad mouthing goes on all the time. Sideshow was actually asking others what the stand is on that , seeming you had gone to the hard work of ringing around and finding stuff out he was asking where do people stand on that matter.... you really need to stop being so defensive when ever he starts posting stuff in the same thread as you..



Rebel1 - thanks for your reply.. this is what he was after. top stuff

DoubleDip, I was taking sideshows comments as being part of this thread and taking it in that context.
If his intention was for it to be a general question then perhaps he should have opened a new thread and asked, Since as you say it was not intended at me pesonally it therefore has nothing at all to do with this thread.
But if what you are saying was his true intent I place my hand on my chest, bow and appologise.

[Doubledip]

Originally Posted by boxhead

DoubleDip, I was taking sideshows comments as being part of this thread and taking it in that context.
If his intention was for it to be a general question then perhaps he should have opened a new thread and asked, Since as you say it was not intended at me pesonally it therefore has nothing at all to do with this thread.
But if what you are saying was his true intent I place my hand on my chest, bow and appologise.

not a problem , all cool then....

[Tenrocca]

Originally Posted by sideshow

but what is the law regarding bad mouthing a business on public forums

Originally Posted by sideshow

this site sucks

y is it so bloody hard to post decent pics

anyway try emailing me a pic and ill let u know

otherwise get the website hosts to fuking fix it finally

hehehehehe

im over it

Is that the sort of bad mouthing\airing dirty laundry etc your referring to?

[Plums]

Thanks for the legal heads up Boxhead. I won't be locking any tunes in future, and to be honest I have often wondered how long it would take before this came up.

I think I'll just do unlocked basic tunes for the masses and keep all the trick stuff for friends...

Rebel1, I think you are totally correct. I have HPTuners and as you rightly pointed out, I just modify bunches of "GM tables" to achieve my desired result.
The one person that this thread started about though, does write his own code.

[boxhead]

Plums, I was advised that if you get a written approval from the customer advising them of the choice of locked or not then you are covered.

[Rebel1]

Plums, I believe that if you only send average tunes unlocked then you are doing yourself a grave injustice. After all, your basic tune as you call it is just as much a hacked GM tune as is your all singing all dancing tune.

I think it has been said before, what makes clients return is SERVICE which includes what happens and how fast it happens when a problem is encountered.

Despite all the debate the real problem here is that Box was NOT advised the tune would be locked. I would hope that had box purchased one of your tunes that you would anticipated that he, being in central Oz, and having already advised he would have the car dyno tuned, would require an unlocked tune.

As to the question by Sideshow " but what is the law regarding bad mouthing a business on public forums?"

Have a look here:
http://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recal...ecall_type=all

That's a list of products recalled from the market in the last 30 days. Behind every one of those recalls is a sad tale to be told by a consumer. Sure, some recalls are because the manufacturer/vendor identified a problem after distribution but in most cases the faults originated in the public forum.

Now...keep in mind that these are only recalls which pose a threat to the public. It does not include the recall of products which pose no threat to health or safely.

If you will have a look at product 2008/10341 on that list. It is for the front hub assy. of a commodore. Here is what the recall notice says.

"Defect Details: The product has fractured causing the front wheel of the vehicle to which the product is fitted to separate itself from its mounting point."

Put yourself in the place of the first ever person to complain that the hub fractured. Do you think he was met with a smile and a replacement given to him without question. Do you think the seller/manufacturer used all sorts of self satisfying excuses like " we have sold hundreds of these and no-one else has a problem", or " You must have hit a gutter". And do you think the seller/manufacturer covered the cost of any consequent damage caused because the hub fractured.

Sideshow, notice that this site is a government site and sellers or manufacturers are named. In many cases the seller/manufacturer is being FORCED to recall his faulty goods.

A trader who has a decent management philosophy regarding the handling of complaints or warranty claims will not find themselves in a public dispute.

[boxhead]

Thanks for the offer of a tune Plums but it is not required, as I now have 2 PCM's (one from ChipMaster and one from Mildura), I do need to supply a replacement unit to the guy in Mildura, so do you or any other supplier have an unlocked PCM that I could purchase. Quoted prices can be pm'd to me so there is no price war if that makes sellers happier.

I would be very keen to talk to you Plums in regards to buying my own software and if your willing to assist and give tips that would be great.
I wont be looking at doing this for approx 12 months as I have started on the rego process and have promised SWMBO a trip to England next year (so funds are tied up)

[Plums]

I only have a couple of spares, but you can have one for $250.

[alffie]

How much is the software worth?