Researching any info re: Paul Cunningham, Competition Cobra privateer

[USC_COWBOY]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

Please note that, for practical purposes, I did not specify which parts from the original 2049 are being used in the reconstruction. But yes, there are some.

As keeper of the real Cobra keys, why don't you explain exactly what part(s) was used to support that chassis? Perhaps a bullet rear vision mirror!

I , for one , would like to know what was used in the reconstruction.

[CompClassics]

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[USC_COWBOY]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

I do know from actual court document photos (which I have) that the parts that were claimed to be from 2049 in fact were not, unless 2049 became a rack and pinion car with a 427 frame. The court awarded title to 2049 based on the % of amount of parts that were presented by the plaintiff as being from 2049 to the court. Anybody knowing anything about Cobras should have been able to see the parts presented were from a Cobra or Cobras other than 2049 and other than a worm and sector Cobra.

CSX2049 was not a rack and pinion and 427 chassis, it was a 289 with rack and pinion steering at the time of the wreck. There is definitely funny business going on with this Wesselink project car based upon the court making it's determination of title based on fraudulent evidence. JMHO.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

CSX2049 was not a rack and pinion and 427 chassis, it was a 289 with rack and pinion steering at the time of the wreck. There is definitely funny business going on with this Wesselink project car based upon the court making it's determination of title based on fraudulent evidence. JMHO.

Are you or someone you are associated with preparing for a lawsuit, or have you filed a lawsuit in regards to your or someone you are associated with claims? If the car was only worth $10,000 in todays market, would you be as headstrong in your belief that your history is 100% correct and you are not relying on a false memory or mistaken memory that was guided by the questions being asked?

Again, just trying to wrap my head around your ultimate, long term goal in this thread.



Bill S.

[USC_COWBOY]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Are you or someone you are associated with preparing for a lawsuit, or have you filed a lawsuit in regards to your or someone you are associated with claims? If the car was only worth $10,000 in todays market, would you be as headstrong in your belief that your history is 100% correct and you are not relying on a false memory or mistaken memory that was guided by the questions being asked?

Again, just trying to wrap my head around your ultimate, long term goal in this thread.



Bill S.

NO and no.

The value of the car has nothing to do with my efforts to correct the history and Paul's driving career.

I am 78 and do not have the physical nor financial where with all to reconstruct CSX2049. That said I would entertain a project wherein the car could be reconstructed, competed, and eventually sold.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

NO and no.

The value of the car has nothing to do with my efforts to correct the history and Paul's driving career.

I am 78 and do not have the physical nor financial where with all to reconstruct CSX2049. That said I would entertain a project wherein the car could be reconstructed, competed, and eventually sold.

I don't see any path to get from where you are to where you want to go.

Maybe if somehow you were to discredit the Hasselrig title, wouldn't that just mean there was no longer a legitimage title in anyone's possession? You don't have a title to CSX 2049? How would you get one? Through a lawsuit? Based on what? I don't get it.

I don't see how the cut up frame you have can be tied to CSX 2049 in any way.

Wouldn't it just be easier at this point to just create a replica of CSX 2049? Maybe someone could partner with you to get AC Brooklands or Kirkham to build one?

Or better yet, how about talking to Shelby American and getting them to build a series of CSX 2049 replicas with CSX 7xxx serial numbers? And maybe you get the first one out of the deal - a real nice one with an aluminum body at a hefy discount from your family blessing on the project. You know Shelby likes to do special editions and charge extra for them.

[Nedsel]

Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

As keeper of the real Cobra keys, why don't you explain exactly what part(s) was used to support that chassis? Perhaps a bullet rear vision mirror!

I , for one , would like to know what was used in the reconstruction.

Yes, I can imagine you would enjoy knowing that. But since I am not the owner of the car, it isn't for me to release details about it, especially since it is my understanding there could be further litigation ahead involving this VIN and the right to proper legal ownership thereof.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

Yes, I can imagine you would enjoy knowing that. But since I am not the owner of the car, it isn't for me to release details about it, especially since it is my understanding there could be further litigation ahead involving this VIN and the right to proper legal ownership thereof.

It does appear that someone is on a fishing expedition and shopping for answers to help make a case.

[USC_COWBOY]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

It does appear that someone is on a fishing expedition and shopping for answers to help make a case.

Not a fishing expedition. Since the prime purpose of SAAC is to protecting the integrity of the history and ownership of classic cobras, it seems to me that the information known to be fact by SAAC mgmt should be made available to all with an interest in the truth.

N'est pas?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

Since the prime purpose of SAAC is to protecting the integrity of the history and ownership of classic cobras, it seems to me that the information known to be fact by SAAC mgmt should be made available to all with an interest in the truth.

No, they hold back "secret stuff." The secret stuff is used to figure out who is telling the truth and who is not. If they gave away all the secret stuff then it wouldn't be secret any more and they wouldn't be able to figure out who was telling the truth and who wasn't because dishonest people would just change their story to fit the secret stuff that is no longer secret any more.

[Nedsel]

Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

Not a fishing expedition. Since the prime purpose of SAAC is to protecting the integrity of the history and ownership of classic cobras, it seems to me that the information known to be fact by SAAC mgmt should be made available to all with an interest in the truth.

N'est pas?

Has the Cowboy ever heard of the SAAC Cobra Registry? We have been publishing it since 1976.

[USC_COWBOY]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

Has the Cowboy ever heard of the SAAC Cobra Registry? We have been publishing it since 1976.

Yes! I have a substantial Cobra library and definitely the SAAC Registry, as well as the leaf spring Early Cobras, Mark I and II.

I am not an idiot.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

Yes! I have a substantial Cobra library and definitely the SAAC Registry, as well as the leaf spring Early Cobras, Mark I and II.

I am not an idiot.

I have to ask once again, why are you trying to pass off a junk "AC Ace" chassis as CSX2049 if not for the potential financial gain it may be to you, your family, or someone you may be associated with in this thread?

There are subtle differences, and the SAAC Registrar has already confirmed that the picture you posted, which is supposed to be a scavengerized CSX2049, is not what it appears to be?

Again, I have no financial gain or loss here, just asking questions as a neutral, 3rd party observer.

Regardless, as always, here is wishing you well.

Bill S.