Daytona Accuracy (Fist Fight)

[*13*]

Who makes the most "Accurate" Daytona Body. The replica cars I see produced today look great, don't get me wrong, but a little too refined. The original cars, to me, had a more "Hand Made" look. A little bulbous in some areas & kinked in others. Anyone offer anything like those?

[ERA Chas]

I agree with your take Hyde. The SPF's (or Brocks) are too 'stand-off scale' and refined for my taste.

K-Bros are probably the only ones.

[John McMahon]

Other than McClusky's cars....I think the most affordable/accurate replica is the Contemporary/Upstate/Lesher Motosports Daytona.

The body was originally splashed from CSX2299 prior to a major restoration.



http://www.leshermotorsports.com/pro...tonacoupe.html

[Russ Dickey]

Originally Posted by John McMahon

Other than McClusky's cars....I think the most affordable/accurate replica is the Contemporary/Upstate/Lesher Motosports Daytona.

The body was originally splashed from CSX2299 prior to a major restoration.



http://www.leshermotorsports.com/pro...tonacoupe.html

I second this post. If it were me and I had a ton of money, it would be McClsuky hands down. On the average joe-budget however, the Contemporary / Lesher is the most accurate IMHO. I just wish Lesher's car had the low-profile windshield ala CSX 2300.

The SPF car is awesome, but is too much of a "modern interpretation" for my taste. Personally, the FFR and Shell Valley wouldn't make my list.

Wasn't there talk of a Kirkham coupe? I remember seeing a picture on here awhile back - was that just a one-off? I'm sure a Kirkham would easily be at the top of my list, although would probably still be more expensive than the Lesher.

[*13*]

That's a nice looking car! Very nice lines

[aks801]

That Lesher looks bad-azz!

I think the FFR car is just fantastic as well.

[Woodz428]

Originally Posted by Russ Dickey

The SPF car is awesome, but is too much of a "modern interpretation" for my taste. .

That's EXACTLY why I bought it. I wanted a touring car, not a race car. I've owned enough over the years. It is actually everything that my XK-E wanted to be but couldn't because of lineage issues.
The Willment Coupe is nice looking , but that picture from Scotland makes me think of an old Triumph Spitfire GT-6(?)( the coupe version, I can't recall it's actual model designation) where the windshield and front fender come together.
I don't track much anymore, however I do drive long trips at recognized speeds

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by Woodz428

That's EXACTLY why I bought it. I wanted a touring car, not a race car. I've owned enough over the years. It is actually evrything that my XK-E wanted to be but couldn't because of lineage issues.
The Willment Coupe is nice looking , but that picture from Scotland makes me think of an old Triumph Spitfire GT-6(?)( the coupe version, I can't recall it's actual model designation) where the windshield and front fender come together.
I don't track much anymore, however I do drive long trips at recognized speeds

I think the OP's question was 'most accurate body'....I think Contemporary.

But....if we're talking 'Best Coupe' for all around use? The Brock Coupe...HANDS DOWN. I love it!

[Woodz428]

Originally Posted by John McMahon

I think the OP's question was 'most accurate body'....I think Contemporary.

Yeah, and I definitely wasn't presenting the Brock Coupe as such. Because it is more of an evolution than an accurate historical replica.I also agree with the post regarding "which" coupe you want replicated...there is a fairly broad number of styles for a car that so few were made. But, that's what makes a handbuilt car.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Russ Dickey

I second this post. If it were me and I had a ton of money, it would be McClsuky hands down. On the average joe-budget however, the Contemporary / Lesher is the most accurate IMHO. I just wish Lesher's car had the low-profile windshield ala CSX 2300.

The SPF car is awesome, but is too much of a "modern interpretation" for my taste. Personally, the FFR and Shell Valley wouldn't make my list.

Wasn't there talk of a Kirkham coupe? I remember seeing a picture on here awhile back - was that just a one-off? I'm sure a Kirkham would easily be at the top of my list, although would probably still be more expensive than the Lesher.

The Kirkham coupe was being reverse engineered from a unfinished McCluskey coupe. I believe that the Kirkhams have not produced a coupe yet, but some people may have put down deposits or tried to put down deposits.

[SP01715]

Originally Posted by John McMahon

Other than McClusky's cars....I think the most affordable/accurate replica is the Contemporary/Upstate/Lesher Motosports Daytona.

The body was originally splashed from CSX2299 prior to a major restoration.



http://www.leshermotorsports.com/pro...tonacoupe.html

The roofline on this car is too high. I just watched the special on TV "America's Greatest Race Car" and they talked alot about the roofline on the coupe, and the importance of it coming down lower than normal for aerodynamics. Look at the original in the first post, it looks totally different.

[Jac Mac]

Originally Posted by SP01715

The roofline on this car is too high. I just watched the special on TV "America's Greatest Race Car" and they talked alot about the roofline on the coupe, and the importance of it coming down lower than normal for aerodynamics. Look at the original in the first post, it looks totally different.

2299 couldnt really called a ' Normal ' coupe given that the high roofline resulted from the incorrectly mounted cowl hoop prior to the chassis arriving in Italy according to the ' Daytona Coupes ' book. Since it would appear that due this it was the car that Gurney spent most of his seat time in, things might have turned out very different were it not for this 'mistake'. Seems funny that this car is also the 'one' that most profile drawings etc are available for, I found out the hard way & had to rework the buck for mine.
Cant really blame anyone for what happened on the cars, the pressure was on, time was of the essence, they had to be ready for Le Mans, from what I understand there were very few drawings etc & they didnt have computers/faxs etc to send stuff back & forth, only phone, & snail mail--yet here we are 40+ years later still trying to get it right & doing it wrong

[SP01715]

On the show Peter Brock was talking about how the guys in Italy raised the roofline (from the original he had built) because they though it looked better. He said it screwed up the aerodynamics on the car, and that they had to fix the rest of the cars they built. It's a good show about the coupe.

[Wild Card 289]

I´m new on CC .....so first of all hi there, and what a great forum you have got going here!

I just couldn´t resist chipping in on this thread. I recently bought a Superformance Daytona to join my 289 slabside replica that I´ve owned for 29 years.

The SPC coupe most definitely doesn´t replicate one of the six originals, but by virtue of being designed and signed off by the designer of the the very first one of the famous six, has a very special status that so few other cars achieve.

However, the issue here is accuracy, and even when dealing with unraced roadsters, it is very difficult to identify a definitive body shape for even a 289 or a 427 road car.

The racetrack evolution that the Daytonas went through - clearance issues, cooling, aerodynamic modifications and some body damage here and there means that it all depends on which original, at which moment in time you want your car to refer to.

There are some fabulous interpretations of the Daytona themes out there, with authentic looking 1964 specs, details and graphics. Respect to them all.

I just know that when I get out of my coupe after letting the 540 hp 427 do what it does best...........I ve got a sort of Dan Gurney grin on my face and its 1964 all over again

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by *13*

Who makes the most "Accurate" Daytona Body. The replica cars I see produced today look great, don't get me wrong, but a little too refined. The original cars, to me, had a more "Hand Made" look. A little bulbous in some areas & kinked in others. Anyone offer anything like those?

Not all original coupes are the same. The one you have pictured is CSX2287 built at SAI. It's quite different than the five built in Italy.

[Buzz]

Good point - and there was also the Willment(sp?) coupe. I would really love to see a photo comparison of the lines on the original coupes.

We need to develop a "'werks signal" like the old bat signal for Ron (not the Barsamian dude - the other one) when topics like this pop up.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Good point - and there was also the Willment(sp?) coupe. I would really love to see a photo comparison of the lines on the original coupes.

Or you can order a World Registry of your own and study all the coupes.

http://www.saac.com/index.php?page=s...hk=1&Itemid=45

[Buzz]

Or you can order a World Registry of your own and study all the coupes.

Yes, I suppose you're right. Lets all do our own research and there would be no need for all this sharing and forum and cobra community discussion bs.

But in the mean time...

Here's csx2299:


And csx2300...


2286...


CSX2287 - the "lost Daytona Coupe"...


2601...


And the Willment Coupe:



The "Super Coupe"

[Buzz]

A couple of replicas:

SPF Brock Coupe:


FFR Type 65:

[Dangerous Doug]

Okay, you have to admit, the Super Coupe and the Willment Coupe are pretty friggin' ugly...

I like the others, though.

DD