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03-02-2016, 05:29 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 66 COBRA FE 427 /4SP. (HCS Coupe w/ 408 Stroker and TKO 600 -sold)
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The bugs are my biggest concern since I have gone with the Coyote Engine. I just hope I have done all the right things. A good friend of mine suggested I go with Mobil 5W50 instead of the Motorcraft oil because it has a much higher ZDDP addative and protects the moving parts better. O'Reilly has their Mobil One on sale right now for the same price as what I paid for the Motorcraft Synthetic Blend. Next time.
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03-02-2016, 06:00 AM
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Clois,
Darren Freidman who owns our site has used a Coyote Engine in his Cobra that he races for quite a while and I don't think he has had any problems at all with it. I believe he replaced his 427SOC engine with the Coyote. He does mostly the type of racing where they have the cones and that means a lot of shifting and up and down in the RPMs. If you want to ask him about anything I am sure that he would be happy to share anything that he has found with you.
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03-02-2016, 06:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clois Harlan
The bugs are my biggest concern since I have gone with the Coyote Engine. I just hope I have done all the right things. A good friend of mine suggested I go with Mobil 5W50 instead of the Motorcraft oil because it has a much higher ZDDP addative and protects the moving parts better. O'Reilly has their Mobil One on sale right now for the same price as what I paid for the Motorcraft Synthetic Blend. Next time. |
I see multiple oil changes in your future.... not too long after startup maybe?
You might consider installing an hour meter. I put one on the black car and like it as I have an idea when I do things to it. Be better to keep a log book but my analitity only goes so far. |
03-02-2016, 07:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clois Harlan
The bugs are my biggest concern since I have gone with the Coyote Engine. I just hope I have done all the right things. A good friend of mine suggested I go with Mobil 5W50 instead of the Motorcraft oil because it has a much higher ZDDP addative and protects the moving parts better. O'Reilly has their Mobil One on sale right now for the same price as what I paid for the Motorcraft Synthetic Blend. Next time. |
Clovis....
Mobil 1 Racing 0w50 oil......not 5w50......big difference.....
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03-02-2016, 11:02 AM
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Thanks guys your info is great...
You know there are only so many things you get to do "first" and I guess it is normal to be a little unsure of yourself.
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03-02-2016, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Morris
Clovis....
Mobil 1 Racing 0w50 oil......not 5w50......big difference.....
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I thought the rule was to never break in an engine with synthetic oil?
Joe Gibbs has a specific break-in oil. I am sure there are others...
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03-02-2016, 06:31 PM
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I agree about the breakin oil but that is what the Ford people told me when I bought the engine. Since it was a crate engine filled with oil when it was delivered I have wondered if it had already been run in.
Might be worth another call to the.Ford racing tech tomorrow.
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03-02-2016, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clois Harlan
I agree about the breakin oil but that is what the Ford people told me when I bought the engine. Since it was a crate engine filled with oil when it was delivered I have wondered if it had already been run in.
Might be worth another call to the.Ford racing tech tomorrow.
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Now that's interesting. I thought most crate engines are delivered with a big tag on them saying "NO OIL!".
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03-03-2016, 09:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clois Harlan
Since it was a crate engine filled with oil when it was delivered I have wondered if it had already been run in.
Might be worth another call to the.Ford racing tech tomorrow.
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My Ford Racing crate motor came filled with oil and had been run tested. |
03-03-2016, 07:47 AM
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I thought the rule was to never break in an engine with synthetic oil?
Joe Gibbs has a specific break-in oil. I am sure there are others...
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Old wise tale........we've been using synthetic oil in new engines since the 70's.....and most new cars of today have synthetic oils from the beginning...especially the Hi-Performance vehicles....
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03-03-2016, 10:08 AM
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Old wise tale........we've been using synthetic oil in new engines since the 70's.....and most new cars of today have synthetic oils from the beginning...especially the Hi-Performance vehicles....
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Not saying you are wrong, but I have seen Hi-Perf engines that wiped the cam within the first couple of hours and the reason in both cases was using the wrong break-in oil (synthetic). I am sure that if Ford ran it, they used what was appropriate for run-in. 
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03-03-2016, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernica
Not saying you are wrong, but I have seen Hi-Perf engines that wiped the cam within the first couple of hours and the reason in both cases was using the wrong break-in oil (synthetic). I am sure that if Ford ran it, they used what was appropriate for run-in. |
Not an issue with the Coyote. True for solid lifter cam, you need ZDDP but roller cam motors don't. Ford knows what works and these come with synthetic from the get go. No worries on break in or down the road. As said, this is no longer the sixties. A friends Boss 302 race car wiped a cam at Watkins in less than 20 miles. He replaced the solid with a roller lifter and gained power as well as no issues with oiling.
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03-03-2016, 02:20 PM
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Not an issue with the Coyote. True for solid lifter cam, you need ZDDP but roller cam motors don't. Ford knows what works and these come with synthetic from the get go. No worries on break in or down the road. As said, this is no longer the sixties. A friends Boss 302 race car wiped a cam at Watkins in less than 20 miles. He replaced the solid with a roller lifter and gained power as well as no issues with oiling.
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Thanks Cashburn. I guess I'm still a little in the old school. And no, I don't have a SFT engine (anymore).! Yes, I have seen the same thing twice and both changed to rollers. No hope for Patrick though!  
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