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03-02-2020, 11:13 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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Evan - if this helps any I took my ERA (no oil cooler) for a ride today. It was in the low 70s and my water temp peaked out about 83 C and my oil at about 82 C. Sounds like your gage could have a problem.
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03-22-2020, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Pleasanton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 824 with 470 FE BBM street 427
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Originally Posted by DanEC
Evan - if this helps any I took my ERA (no oil cooler) for a ride today. It was in the low 70s and my water temp peaked out about 83 C and my oil at about 82 C. Sounds like your gage could have a problem.
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Dan,
Thanks. Pretty sure it's a bourdon tube issue. After my measurements I'm comfortable the engine coolant and oil temps are where they should be.
Evan
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03-23-2020, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ACHiPo
Dan,
Thanks. Pretty sure it's a bourdon tube issue. After my measurements I'm comfortable the engine coolant and oil temps are where they should be.
Evan
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I saw your post over on the FordFE forum. When you pull your sensor out and stick it in a pot of boiling water, if the needle on the gauge goes right up to 100 degrees Celsius, then it pretty much has to be a goofy result of the placement of the sensor in the pan. We've seen that happen from time to time on oil temp sensors. But you've pretty much got to do that test -- you can't just live with a gauge that gives you the wrong readings. 
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03-23-2020, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
I saw your post over on the FordFE forum. When you pull your sensor out and stick it in a pot of boiling water, if the needle on the gauge goes right up to 100 degrees Celsius, then it pretty much has to be a goofy result of the placement of the sensor in the pan. We've seen that happen from time to time on oil temp sensors. But you've pretty much got to do that test -- you can't just live with a gauge that gives you the wrong readings. 
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See no evil?

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03-23-2020, 11:15 AM
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See no evil?
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Yes, it's kind of like that TV commercial where the woman puts the sticker over her Check Engine light. 
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03-24-2020, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Yes, it's kind of like that TV commercial where the woman puts the sticker over her Check Engine light. 
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Not quite. In this case I know the water temp is trust worthy, and there is a significant temp delta between the oil and water temp gauges, plus I know the oil pressure behavior when the engine is warm enough to hammer. Perhaps I'm missing the value of the oil temp gauge? 
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03-24-2020, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ACHiPo
Not quite. In this case I know the water temp is trust worthy, and there is a significant temp delta between the oil and water temp gauges, plus I know the oil pressure behavior when the engine is warm enough to hammer. Perhaps I'm missing the value of the oil temp gauge? 
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Alright, you and I are not Morris chasing 200MPH.  He needs an oil temp gauge, we can get by without one. That said, your oil temp gauge does provide good information on when your engine is actually warmed up (not just when the coolant is warmed up) and it will give you a little bit of advance warning if something in your mill changes. That's provided you know how it normally behaves when you are doing the things you normally do. That's where not having a working oil temp gauge leaves you short -- you don't know how it normally behaves because it never has. Having a working oil temp will give you a better insight in to your engine and its performance. Yes, you can live without it, but you shouldn't.
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