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03-14-2009, 01:19 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Cobra Make, Engine: BRG ERA street car w/428 PI, Sunburst wheels, undercar exhaust, original interior, no philips head screws!
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? for anyone with an Oil Cooler
What are your normal oil and water temps? What is your normal oil pressure?
I'm going to tape off the oil cooler I have per dougs suggestion with weather under 50 degree's. Anyone else do that? |
03-14-2009, 01:41 PM
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Just a thought, but you might consider taping (or blocking the air flow) from behind the oil cooler, so it looks a bit better.
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03-14-2009, 01:48 PM
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Good idea...I'm not super concerned what it looks like but once I put the tape on I might change my mind!
My issue with blocking from the rear is that I'll be dealing with the front pressure of the air as I drive. Anything I put behind will want to keep going in the same direction and might be tough to hold in place.
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03-14-2009, 01:53 PM
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Well, I tried it, and you're right...my cute little bit of aluminum behind the cooler blew off while going down the road, and I just never got around to making another...I plumbed in a thermostat instead. The aluminum seemed like a good idea at the time...
My normal water temp runs 185-195 F, and unfortunately the oil is just a bit lower at 180-190 F...about 30 degrees colder on the oil than I would like.
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03-14-2009, 02:02 PM
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hmmm....I can't get my water temp past 80, oil past 60....Now, I'm in weather 35 to 50 right now... |
03-14-2009, 02:07 PM
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From what I have learned here.......... oil needs to be 212 degrees or higher to work properly, and also that oil should be hotter than the water. |
03-14-2009, 02:25 PM
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Try a piece of 1/8" black rubber sheet from a hardware store. Block the front of the oil cooler and tack it on with a little black duck tape. It was recommended to me and works like a charm. 
Blocking Air Flow to Oil Cooler
It also blends in so you don't even notice it.
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03-14-2009, 02:37 PM
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428, it sounds like your t-stat isn't working, and I wonder if your oil temp gage is reading wrong...try a laser temp gage and check the radiator and oil pan...it may be ok but gages are reading wrong. Those temps are way too low for healthy running.
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03-14-2009, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 428street
hmmm....I can't get my water temp past 80, oil past 60....Now, I'm in weather 35 to 50 right now...
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Is the water temp that you noted in centigrade? If so, your water temp isn't that far off, especially in cold weather.
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03-14-2009, 03:00 PM
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I'm using mine as an aux. radiator; looks great with the lines on it and no one is the wiser. I've got a hard time getting enough heat in the oil without the cooler just street driving.
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03-14-2009, 03:34 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 428street
hmmm....I can't get my water temp past 80, oil past 60....Now, I'm in weather 35 to 50 right now...
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Don't do anything until Spring/Summer. Your water temp is perfectly normal for the chilly temps that we have right now. But I'm suspicious that your oil temp is just not giving your a correct reading -- but I'll know for sure when I hear your Spring/Summer numbers. If during the Spring weather you can't get your oil temp above 80 then your readings are wrong (and I know of no malady, other than a bad gauge or sender, that causes below normal oil temperatures in an engine, even with your oil cooler). |
03-14-2009, 03:56 PM
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03-14-2009, 03:58 PM
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A beltgrinder???? 
EDIT -- Oh, I see you changed the URL. A bypass valve. |
03-14-2009, 04:26 PM
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I put a sandwich thermostat on mine also. My temps run about the same as Ken's, but my car runs much better than his! 
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03-14-2009, 05:02 PM
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I'm going to tape the face of the cooler as Doug suggested and see what results I get. I'll post Sunday after I take it for a spin if the weather cooperates. The car runs flawlessly and is very smooth so I have to think if I had an issue that would not be the case - I could be wrong as I am far from an engine expert - just my gut feeling.
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03-14-2009, 05:12 PM
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Frank, are you gauges in Celsius or Fahrenheit? My oil temp levels out at about 95 C and water is at 85 C.
95 C = 203 F
85 C = 185 F
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03-14-2009, 05:39 PM
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I just checked the Smith's gauges and they are in Celsius or centigrade so I guess that solved that problem...dummy...
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03-14-2009, 06:15 PM
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I run a t-stat (see gallery), but since it flows 10-20% through the cooler until the oil reaches 210*, I also use a block off plate (clear plexiglas held in place by velcro) on cold morning runs.
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03-14-2009, 06:27 PM
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...or do what I do
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03-14-2009, 07:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 428street
I just checked the Smith's gauges and they are in Celsius or centigrade so I guess that solved that problem...dummy...
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Metric happens!
ROFLMAO... Don't worry Frank.... Happened to me too.
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