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06-12-2010, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Barry_R
ATI is the best - the FE one is roughly 7 degrees off on the TDC marking and uses a Chevy pulley bolt pattern. More race car quality at just under $400. I have no experience with BHJ, but they should be comparable.
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Thanks Barry -- ATI it is. BTW, Amazon wrote me that they shipped your book to me on Friday.
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Originally Posted by ERA Chas
About removal/install; you don't have room to pry (barbaric) in the car anyway so don't skimp-buy or borrow the tools. I've seen guys hammer them on (also barbaric) but the tools actually make it easier in the car. I did it on my back. Good new is you can use your impact wrench to spin the bolt off. Going on you gotta put it in gear (rear tires on ground) because they all want well over 100 lbft of torque.
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OK, I'll do it your way. As much as you are a PITA, you're generally more right than wrong -- thanks.  |
06-12-2010, 05:05 PM
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OK, I'll do it your way. As much as you are a PITA, you're generally more right than wrong -- thanks. |
Barry gives the best reason-the OE's are never accurate with the timing marks.
I'm glad to share if I've gone through something that can help somebody-EVEN you.  Just glad that thing didn't frag at 70 MPH on the way to your haberdasher... 
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06-12-2010, 05:21 PM
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This looks like it might fit the bill: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATI-918290/ What do you think? Looks like they're a little back ordered on it though. |
06-12-2010, 05:26 PM
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Fine-just check with Barry that the 3 bolt pulley you have works with that and make sure the fan belt lines up correctly when all bolted up. And order the bolt at the same time.
Just curious, the Innovators is $35 cheaper...?
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06-12-2010, 05:37 PM
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Well, lemmee look at the Innovators again. In the meantime, Barry will this pulley work on the ATI 918290?
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06-12-2010, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kellison Stallion 468 FE
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patrick,
i have used several BHJ dampners and i like them alot, they come with or without an SFI rating, i also purchased BHJ's honing plate, their quality is excellent and the timing marks are right on. you can buy direct from them but keith craft racing was selling them below BHJ's price. they will have the ford bolt pattern....
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06-12-2010, 06:26 PM
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Well, after reading the ATI 2010 Performance Catalog I'm pretty sure my pulley won't fit. You know, I've heard of them slipping before, but never coming completely apart.
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06-13-2010, 04:58 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Barry gives the best reason-the OE's are never accurate with the timing marks. |
I always check the balancer against a degree wheel and piston stop. If they're off, you can get the MSD timing tape (it's available for a myriad of balancer diameters) and you can make it right. |
06-13-2010, 05:18 AM
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Keith & Barry -- Thank you both; excellent advice, as usual.
Brent -- I'll degree it just to make sure. I'm betting it will be off -- everything I buy for that car is, but that's half the fun...
Rick -- I'm not about to rebuild that POS dampner.  But thank you for the thought.
BTW, for what its worth, in Steve Christ's book (page 137) he says to put the dampner on by whacking it with a hammer and that it can be pulled on by installing the center bolt. For decades I've done it that same way, but, WTF, I'll go ahead and take the advice of all of you and pull it and install it with the special tool. I need another tool anyway.... (My Haynes Techbook Ford Engine Overhaul Manual does say to use the special tool, though.)
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06-13-2010, 05:30 AM
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Which one you gonna buy Patrick? The ATI?
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06-13-2010, 05:32 AM
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Quote:
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Which one you gonna buy Patrick? The ATI?
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The ATI 918290 looks very nice. Can you get me a sweetheart deal? |
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