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04-05-2012, 07:17 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
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All though heat soak can be a problem for any starter, the minis minimize this with gear reduction, it's MHO that heat soak problems with Cobras are overstated. You only have to see how the header pipes in a Mustang w/FE wrap around the starter and compare that to the relatively open area of a Cobra to see what I mean. On the contrary, I believe that most "starter" problems in Cobras are cabling and power management issues rather than the starter its self. I, and I know of quite a few others, are running OEM type starters with no problems what so ever. I also made my own ground and starter cables using #1 welding cable just to make sure that I'd have no amperage drop off. I've gotta say, if it works, it works.
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04-08-2012, 06:38 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique
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block plate
"The flywheel is still in the same place with or without a block plate and your starter bolts up evenly with the block -- so a block plate that's in between the two is not going to make a difference in the distance."
Yes it will! The blockplate is BETWEEN the starter and the bellhousing. If you remove this section from the block plate it WILL be closer to the flywheel.
Also since this section isn't touching the block it wont effect the bellhousing/block spacing.
Seen it done.
I know this, I just finished replacing the ring gear on my flywheel! 
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04-08-2012, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: seekonk,
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Cobra Make, Engine: factory five mkIII roadster 445 fe quick fuel 750 q series,irs
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i know ricklake mentioned this right away, i dont want to do this before i hear back from prestolite who now owns quicktime. quicktime has always had problems with there starter pockets, i remember my first 6056 bellhousing was built to the wrong spec and the starter did not even fit the hole in the bellhousing plate. if they cant help me i have to get it to work myself, the cvr starter is very nice a and would really like to use it if not powermaster has a stock starter that has more juice.
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factory five mk III roadster, 445 fe stroker
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04-08-2012, 05:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: E BRUNSWICK N.J. USA,
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It's amazing
Patrick T. 13,000+ replys. Didn't know NOTHING about auto mechanic until 2005. Doesn't know or understand reasons for doing things differently. Want the world to follow you blindly, alot more damage would be done. You still don't understand the problem and or why. OEM stater may also come up short on the flywheel for a full contact of the teeth to teeth with a block plate installed. I think following 1 person in the white housing taking the country down a rabbit hole is enough. I would really like to see your ASE certs, GM, Ford, or Dodge certs from all the years you have been working in the auto industry. Even a picture of your scared hands would show all the manual labor you have done under a HOOD of a car. Rick L. Ps 3 others on thread understand what is going on. Have a nice Easter. Rick L.
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04-08-2012, 05:43 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Rick, holidays must stress you. You should take it easy and relax. 
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04-08-2012, 05:51 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lovehamr
All though heat soak can be a problem for any starter, the minis minimize this with gear reduction, it's MHO that heat soak problems with Cobras are overstated. You only have to see how the header pipes in a Mustang w/FE wrap around the starter and compare that to the relatively open area of a Cobra to see what I mean. On the contrary, I believe that most "starter" problems in Cobras are cabling and power management issues rather than the starter its self. I, and I know of quite a few others, are running OEM type starters with no problems what so ever. I also made my own ground and starter cables using #1 welding cable just to make sure that I'd have no amperage drop off. I've gotta say, if it works, it works.
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Forgot to mention that I'm running a QT bellhousing as well.
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04-08-2012, 06:08 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique
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QT bellhousing
Me too!
If you do end up cutting the block spacer just bolt the spacer to the block without the bellhousing and scribe the cutout in the block for the starter to the spacer or you can bolt the starter to the spacer and do the same thing. Don't throw away the piece you cut out. You may change starters or flywheels some other time and the part you cut out can still be used as a spacer, it will give the starter full contact between the bellsousing and starter housing.
If you know someone with a band saw this won't be that hard.
Hopefully this won't be the case.
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04-09-2012, 05:39 PM
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There was an accident in front of my house
Patrick T Pat I like the holidays. Yesterday at 3:40 pm in front of my house a cube truck hit a mini van taxi. 13 year old girl got her teeth knocked out and jaw broken because her stupid father had her sitting on a box without a seat belt and hit the van and then a tree. Her face hit the dash, her knee hit the lower dash and opened her up to the bone. The driver in the van was less lucky with her left arm being sliced open to the bone and just missing the artery. I had to flip over the skin to slow the bleeding. She was about 300 pounds and alot of fat. This saved her life. Air bags blew and burnt her face. It took 45 minutes to remove her from the van. 3 people went to the hospital. No body died and that's a good thing. That's how my easter went. Rick L. Ps dinner was cold by the time the mess was cleared up. I had to sweep the street for glass in my driveway. Great holiday.
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04-09-2012, 06:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RICK LAKE
Patrick T Pat I like the holidays. Yesterday at 3:40 pm in front of my house a cube truck hit a mini van taxi...
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