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Well, if weight savings is what you're after, you gotta go whole hog - Halibrands with BB's.
Mixing bias and radials with mags and ally with weight in mind isn't gonna get you far. Stick with the Trigos, especially now that we've come to the point of manufacturing patina....and preserving it %/... but for God's sake, mount some Avons on there. Being on the East coast, you're gonna have to stay up late to get those numbers. I won't get home until 9 (PST) tonight and even then I have to remember. And on top of that, remember some fancy equation that will end up turning Archimedes in his grave. |
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That made me LOL!
...and when I made lemonade out of lemons you said I was capitulating. :D That response was gold. Fool's gold, but gold. ;) |
A. Do not even think my sense of aesthetics in the same thought as your shop-class rube projects on the roll bars and underhood.
B. Let poor Rodney alone; I think your Trigo weights and my mag numbers are very representative. C. Just put the freakin' Avons on. |
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As for bias play BB's, uh, no thanks. I prefer the V-rated Avons when it comes time to change the tires. And I'll stay with my Trigo's since, well, er, I have NO CHOICE. :CRY: |
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I've picked up both types of wheels before and there is a weight difference. Maybe you and Chas both "threw back" a few extra oysters at the oyster bar that day. There's no chance I would believe the stats provided by you guys in whatever unscientific methods you used. :) BTW, if Fran or Halibrand someday make a batch of mags and if somehow I can figure out the correct backspacing measurements so that they fit my Kirkham, then I'm still a buyer of mag wheels. They look cool and are lighter than aluminum. |
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Or ask David. Or send them to David if you ever get a set -PUN INTENDED! Erister Bar ehhhh?? |
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Now, of course, I only gave grass, plants and trees some extra watering time by turning the sprinkler system program on. But hey, that counts doesn't it. :LOL: |
I noticed patrickt isn't logged in.
He must have knocked off early. I figured he would have stayed up for the results. :( |
First let me state that the Trigos are brand new, from their new (1.5 - 2 years old) tooling. These may vary from previous Trigos.
My Halibrands are either from the 2000ish or 1990ish run, I'm not sure. They have the same color as Chas'. (BTW Chas, the backs on mine are machined too, they just don't have that freshly machined look yours do :cool:). Also, my bath scale is digital but certainly not certified. What matters here is their relative weight. And the envelope, please.... Trigos: Front: 19.4 lbs Rear: 20 lbs (very surprised by that tiny difference. I did it 3 times) Total: 78.8 lbs Halibrands: Front: 16.2 lbs Rear: 18 lbs Total: 68.4 lbs For a total difference of.... 10.4 lbs of unsprung weight, or (Rodknock, Chas, are you ready for this?)... EXACTLY 1.0 extra roll bars (padding included). :eek: |
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I'm very surprised that your mags are noticeably lighter than mine. Mine were from the 1990 sets-near the end. Yours being from the later batch may account for a change of alloy or construction-I just don't know. There were two different foundries I believe but never could trace their origins. Mine were from when Barry Blackburn (sp?) owned the company.
Chime in if you know some Halibrand company history after Ted. |
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BS! We'd have to chip-in just to afford the NuVite he'll need! |
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As I said, if they were available, then 2.5 lbs (+/-) per corner works for me. |
I'm going to see if I can borrow a small shipping scale from work and do it again.
There's also a fairly decent history of Halibrand on the HAMB. Might be worth searching. |
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