Thoughts on this Side Oiler for sale ?

[Grubby]

Buy a new block or new build from a good builder. A new block with all machining is likely going to be the same cost or less than a vintage 427 and you are taking a risk with the seller and the product on used iron.

Little to risk with Brent or other top builders. He will quote a price and you will get what you expect.

It looks like you are trying to save pennys at the risk of dollars.

John

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by Grubby

Buy a new block or new build from a good builder. A new block with all machining is likely going to be the same cost or less than a vintage 427 and you are taking a risk with the seller and the product on used iron.

Little to risk with Brent or other top builders. He will quote a price and you will get what you expect.

It looks like you are trying to save pennys at the risk of dollars.

John

Yup. Totally agree with Grubby on this. Do it right and do it once. Those lumps are no fun to pull out of these cars.

[FUNFER2]

I agree, especially since the NOS block is gone.

Internet sellers are scary, you can never really trust them, as I trusted Dennis and look what happened. He would quote scripture every time we spoke and his website was all,...Let there be God, let there be light, pray for others as they do for you,...etc....

I'm a Christian so I believed and trusted him.

Ok, we can forget the Shelby engine and heads etc, their way,....too expensive. Same for Roush.


LET'S GO SHOPPING !

If you guys want to have fun, let's look at blocks and heads on Barry's, Craft and Brent's websites, and compare bottom end packages and prices.

Please feel free with other builders that you trust !

LET'S GO SHOPPING !

Survival Motorsports-

Survival Motorsports Home Page

Craft Performance Engines-

Craft Performance Engines

Lykins Motorsports-

Lykins Motorsports, LLC

Robert Pond Motorsports-

427 Ford FE Type Engine, Pond Racing

Prestige Motorsports-

Prestige Motorsports: Custom Engines, Performance Shop, Paint and Body, Concord NC

FE Power (Jay Brown)

I don't recall the builder that's on the Ford FE sight ?
Sounds like he's another great one that has a small shop and no real website.

[blykins]

A center oiler block isn't the best choice for a solid roller application because the lifter passages are not drilled. This forces you into a non-oiling lifter. Again, not a deal breaker, but certainly doesn't lend to longevity.

If you're looking for period-correctness, the BBM block looks pretty close, but it's not an original side oiler block. It's a new one. You get into the same deal as the "continuation CSX" cars.

I've used most of the aftermarket blocks. They are all nice.

I would urge against aluminum; I'm just not a fan. Yeah, they're lighter, but that's about the only pro in my opinion. You pay more for them, there's a lot more prep and babysitting during the machining process, and they take a little more "care" on the part of the customer.

[FUNFER2]

I agree Brent, you're wise man.

One guy I know wish's he hadn't gone with the aluminum engine. He's had some problems with it, but after several years, he has them fixed.

I had no idea the passages are not drilled in the center oiler !
That's some extra machining adding to the build.

I would like a mechanical roller, but the little gains you get and sound, may,....not be worth it. I don't mind lashing valves, and even though company's like Isky have bushing's rather than needles, it still concerns me that with street driving, they'll come apart someday. How do you feel about that and do you have an experience with associated issues with a solid roller on the street ect ?

They've come along with rollers on the street since my old days with a roller 468ci in my Pro-Street Camaro. (man, that makes me feel old)

There's nothing wrong with a Hydro roller, it's just that the solid sounds and feels awesome and can gain more HP/TQ, but really not enough to feel it in your pants. It's not possible, but if I could get a engine to sound like a sprint car motor, that would be the ultimate ! (not having weight on the crank with no flywheel, clutch etc)

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

I agree, especially since the NOS block is gone.

Internet sellers are scary, you can never really trust them, as I trusted Dennis and look what happened. He would quote scripture every time we spoke and his website was all,...Let there be God, let there be light, pray for others as they do for you,...etc....

I'm a Christian so I believed and trusted him.

Ok, we can forget the Shelby engine and heads etc, their way,....too expensive. Same for Roush.


LET'S GO SHOPPING !

If you guys want to have fun, let's look at blocks and heads on Barry's, Craft and Brent's websites, and compare bottom end packages and prices.

Please feel free with other builders that you trust !

LET'S GO SHOPPING !

Survival Motorsports-

Survival Motorsports Home Page

Craft Performance Engines-

Craft Performance Engines

Lykins Motorsports-

Lykins Motorsports, LLC

Robert Pond Motorsports-

427 Ford FE Type Engine, Pond Racing

Prestige Motorsports-

Prestige Motorsports: Custom Engines, Performance Shop, Paint and Body, Concord NC

FE Power (Jay Brown)

I don't recall the builder that's on the Ford FE sight ?
Sounds like he's another great one that has a small shop and no real website.

No body's interested ?

Come on guys......none of you would like to shop FE motors for a Cobra ?

[Grubby]

Kevin,

Be patient and shop.

I found a good deal on a Roush FE with a Shelby block on this forum. The owner made me a very fair deal. It got me into a Shelby blocked FE for much less than I expect. It is going in the next build.

The next ERA will be going into the que in the next several weeks.

John

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by Grubby

Kevin,

Be patient and shop.

I found a good deal on a Roush FE with a Shelby block on this forum. The owner made me a very fair deal. It got me into a Shelby blocked FE for much less than I expect. It is going in the next build.

The next ERA will be going into the que in the next several weeks.

John

Me,...Be patient and shop.

No, actually I'm trying.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

No body's interested ?

What sort of budget do you have for the engine alone? Can you go 10k, 12k, 15k... That's the first step.

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by patrickt

What sort of budget do you have for the engine alone? Can you go 10k, 12k, 15k... That's the first step.

10k is my max right now. First will be the block alone or short block if it has the parts I want. I don't really need,...a steel crank over a cast, but it would be good assurance to have the steel.

I have my 1/4 scale RC sprint car on ebay and I need to get busy and sell some of my full size sprint car parts. First will be a pair of Chevy small block304 stainless headers. Any pre-1987 heads.

I was just researching the Scatt 482ci rotating assembly's for cost's on different company's websites. Maybe I can find a sale ?

[FUNFER2]

How do you like your 428FE/447ci ?
Give me some details.