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He'll notice. Remember, he's discriminating....:LOL:
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There's all types of folk (from serious to hobbyists) who would kill for that weight savings. |
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Can I disguise my voice? :)
EDITED.... I was assuming Lippy was talking in my Hillbilly vernacular....which would mean that 4% isn't *anything*. Power to weight ratios are laughable at the level of a high horsepower Cobra. With 600 hp, who here can tell if they are carrying a passenger at WOT? Where the difference may lie is the weight distribution. I had both a stroked 351W and a 428 FE in my Cobra and, IMO, the difference wasn't noticeable. However, to be fair, I didn't get much seat time before I got bored and sold it.... :D If the weight difference was out there hanging off the oil cooler, I could see some value in lightening the load. However, with the engine's weight so far behind the front axle centerline, I just can't see the advantage unless you were on a road course. And even then, to really find the ragged edge of each setup, you'd probably need more than a conventional wet sump setup.... |
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I know I could feel a 5% power difference, maybe not as much with 4%. I am discriminating. :LOL: And think about the increase gas mileage with a lighter car. More nimble in those freeway off and on ramps too! |
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And then they try to put the power down on some BFG TAs....................:3DSMILE:
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Scott, your ability and purpose for the car is above the norm....not many guys here are accustomed to driving late models.
My father has a 2010 Z06 that's making about 680 hp at the flywheel. Things happen so quickly out on the street with heavy throttle application that a passenger isn't even part of the equation. |
We're arguing here about who can feel what. Too me, that's stupid. How can you know what others can feel? Or tell them what they can feel or not?
Consumers who buy alloy blocks want the light weight, and/or resale value/reduced DOM (days on the market) associated with buying a aluminum block. "Bling" doesn't finish at the top of the list in this informal poll. And every new FE block, cast iron or alloy, is N/A anyway. |
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Why would you turn your nose up to that when building your ultimate street beast? |
Bench racing and bragging about that extra 4-5% of additional power to weight ratio seems to be popular on this and a couple other forums I've frequented, but how many guys really need or could even tell the difference?
What, you could go from light to light .1 of a second faster? Your autocross times are better? Doubtful. Would your top end be more impressive? I doubt anyone here beyond a very select few would ever know the difference, or would be foolish to try to find the difference on the street. Track racing would be a complete different animal and not what is under discussion here, IMHO. Admit it for what is is, ego and bragging rights and really nothing else. And the fact it raises the cars value only means there are lots of guys out there who need to boost their ego and bragging rights so they can inflate the conversation when they are bench racing. I'm extremely happy with my stroked 351W (393) and 99% of people think it sounds just great and can't tell it from a 427 to look at it. No one looking at the car from the street or the outside will be able to tell if it has a 427 , 428, 302, or an LS for that matter. And to look under the hood only means a bit of bragging is going on.... I know, I've been there... I like to open my hood too once in awhile..... :) Bob |
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I see your 351W and raise you an aluminium 427s/oiler. :p Yep. Ego! Else that wouldn't flipping comment wouldn't elicit the reactions I suspect it might. Ps. Comment not directed at bob. |
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As I said previously, for an extra $1,000-$1,500 in 2008, I chose aluminum FE because 125 lbs was important to me. And Kirkham went through a lot of trouble to build a lightweight aluminum Cobra, with their billet aluminum suspension and differential, to drop a "boat anchor" in there. And Shelby's American-made pure Alcoa aluminum blocks weren't exhibiting any casting issues to the best of my knowledge. And most "car people" understand the difference between a small block and a big block. |
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I would think that a $$$$ "aftermarket" block would be an ego-booster. Not solely focused on aluminum.
If the Cup guys can go 200 mph at 9500 with a cast iron block, you guys can drive 5 miles to Starbucks without nosing over and missing your turn...... ;) |
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