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RodKnock 11-18-2016 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blykins (Post 1409082)
I would think that a $$$$ "aftermarket" block would be an ego-booster. Not solely focused on aluminum.

If the Cup guys can go 200 mph at 9500 with a cast iron block, you guys can drive 5 miles to Starbucks without nosing over and missing your turn...... ;)

Well, that says it all. You don't understand your market. I don't know what you're drinking in KY for coffee in the morning, but we folks that buy alloy FE blocks don't drink that swill that parades around as Starbuck's coffee. That's pure crappola. :LOL:

And if we're going to be seen at Starbucks, we take our Pinarello bicycles anyway. :p

rodneym 11-18-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blykins (Post 1409082)
If the Cup guys can go 200 mph at 9500 with a cast iron block, you guys can drive 5 miles to Starbucks without nosing over and missing your turn...... ;)

:LOL: That is freakin' funny.
A little disdain for your customers is healthy.
And you're in good company ;)

patrickt 11-18-2016 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1409086)
:LOL: That is freakin' funny.
A little disdain for your customers is healthy.
And you're in good company ;)

I've always thought there was something funny about the "alloy" guys. I think we should exclude them whenever possible.:cool:

blykins 11-18-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1409086)
:LOL: That is freakin' funny.
A little disdain for your customers is healthy.
And you're in good company ;)

It was tongue in cheek, but I've known a lot of you for years and feel like I can take a jab every now and then.

Plus I know how a lot of these cars are used. The first engine I ever delivered ended up in a Hurricane Cobra. 10 years later it had 4000 miles on it.

RodKnock 11-18-2016 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blykins (Post 1409088)
The first engine I ever delivered ended up in a Hurricane Cobra. 10 years later it had 4000 miles on it.

That sounds like a DD to me. :LOL:

RodKnock 11-18-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1409087)
I've always thought there was something funny about the "alloy" guys. I think we should exclude them whenever possible.:cool:

Not to mention those "guys" with Desert Storm Camo beige Cobras, Faux FE's, two roll bars with pipe insulation around them and Christmas tree lights masquerading around as Cobra trunk trim. :cool:

patrickt 11-18-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1409091)
Not to mention those "guys" with Desert Storm Camo beige Cobras, Faux FE's, two roll bars with pipe insulation around them and Christmas tree lights masquerading around as Cobra trunk trim. :cool:

No, for guys like that we all wear safety pins.:D

lippy 11-18-2016 04:30 PM

Guys that buy Cobras want something extreme. You don't *need* anything nearly that fast. These cars would be fast with iron blocks or even SBCs. But if you're gonna build or buy something that's totally extreme, you might as well do all the little things that add up, and that make it a fun project. An Al block and saving 125# fall into that category. For me it was a difference of maybe $500-600. The only thing that would give me pause if I were to do it again is that the pan on this engine has never sealed well, despite some pretty extreme measures. I think it would be better with an iron block. But it's a relatively small issue.

fordracing65 11-18-2016 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blykins (Post 1409082)
I would think that a $$$$ "aftermarket" block would be an ego-booster. Not solely focused on aluminum.

If the Cup guys can go 200 mph at 9500 with a cast iron block, you guys can drive 5 miles to Starbucks without nosing over and missing your turn...... ;)

I believe nascar uses compact graphite iron blocks not cast iron. They are stronger than cast but lighter. They get a new engine every 1000 miles. So it makes sense to use iron. Formula 1 uses aluminum but those engines are on a different planet than a nascar motor.

lippy 11-18-2016 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1409085)
And if we're going to be seen at Starbucks, we take our Pinarello bicycles anyway. :p

You must live in Woodside.

blykins 11-18-2016 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1409094)
I believe nascar uses compact graphite iron blocks not cast iron. They are stronger than cast but lighter. They get a new engine every 1000 miles. So it makes sense to use iron. Formula 1 uses aluminum but those engines are on a different planet than a nascar motor.

Yes sir, that is correct, but that just changed with the newest generation of FR9 engines.

Up until a few years ago, they were all cast iron blocks.

Those stupid CGI FR9 blocks are like $13k a piece.

rodneym 11-18-2016 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1409087)
I've always thought there was something funny about the "alloy" guys. I think we should exclude them whenever possible.:cool:

Call me Lonesome Dove.

rodneym 11-18-2016 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blykins (Post 1409088)
It was tongue in cheek, but I've known a lot of you for years and feel like I can take a jab every now and then.

Plus I know how a lot of these cars are used. The first engine I ever delivered ended up in a Hurricane Cobra. 10 years later it had 4000 miles on it.

bly,
I hope you know I love you (you know what I mean). And I'm a customer of yours too, if you remember. Albeit not a big $$$ one.

Jab away. My skin is A LOT thicker than aluminum skin. More like a thick, hardened and cured fiberglass Co-ahhh, forget it. **)

Detroit Bill 11-18-2016 04:55 PM

It's pretty clear the nature of a cobra build leads the buyer in many cases to aluminum. Next question why go to 482? Same as the block because you can!

blykins 11-18-2016 05:01 PM

You could have went to 496 without any more expense.... ;) Could have also went to 527 with a Shelby block. Could go higher than that with a Shelby block (or cast iron Pond block) and a custom crank.

rodneym, I love you too.

RodKnock 11-18-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blykins (Post 1409101)
rodneym, I love you too.

You know, given our current political environment, I'd ixnay on the ove-lay. :LOL:

jhv48 11-18-2016 05:13 PM

Sheesh, you guys, this isn't Brokeback Mountain.

Get a room!

Not that there's anything wrong with it!!

Three Peaks 11-18-2016 05:22 PM

Funny the Sprint cup guys come up in this conversation. Don't those guys run (gasp) small blocks?

Bob

blykins 11-18-2016 05:24 PM

Yeah, but to be fair, it's because of the rules.

Large Arbor 11-18-2016 05:26 PM

As I said earlier, my car had the Danbury built Shelby aluminum block when I built it.

On other points, at some point HP's are just wasted on the tires. I love the way my car, drives, and handles. The oil leaks are down to valve covers now that the intake is sealed with the TA 31 stuff.

I have aluminum block, heads, intake, water pump and love it all (except for the polishing and cleaning). I also love the FE engines and get complements from the older guys on it. Much of the younger crowd doesn't even know what an FE is.

I bought the car thinking it had a better value since it was all aluminum. Some folks prefer it.

Aren't all FE engines getting a little harder to find?

Phil


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