Give up a 991 GT3 for a Superformance GT40? - Page 11

RodKnock · #1 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 01:15 AM

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PS: Chaff? Are you insinuating your opinion is of a higher integrity, and therefore more valid than anyone else?

"Chaff", that comment from good old Mike, remind of you of anyone? The infamous "separate the wheat from the chaff" comment from Lord Voldemort?

SFSDFGT · #2 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 05:53 AM

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"Chaff", that comment from good old Mike, remind of you of anyone? The infamous "separate the wheat from the chaff" comment from Lord Voldemort?

Oh, to be sure- MHNCO/LukeWarmwater/Mike is definitely to Superformance GT40s as Real One/Evan was to CSX Cobras. Except I enjoyed Evan more.

RodKnock · #3 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 10:29 AM

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Oh, to be sure- MHNCO/LukeWarmwater/Mike is definitely to Superformance GT40s as Real One/Evan was to CSX Cobras. Except I enjoyed Evan more.

At least with the CSX, some form of the original company (Shelby American) is making the continuation/replicas. With the SPF, they're being produced in South Africa, by a new-ish company under the license of somebody named Safir.

While both are great replicas, especially the CSX, since they're made by Kirkham

, the CSX can connect the ever-fading dots to the 1960's. Evan had that advantage at least.

Also, Real One had one of the greatest engines ever to be installed in any vehicle in his Shelby Cobra. Mike has a 302/4bbl, one of the most reliable, yet, pedestrian, engines of all time. OOH, but it's got a "Lemaze" cam for the "sound" of the 1960's paddock. Oh boy!

MHNCO · #4 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 07:57 AM

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PS: Chaff? Are you insinuating your opinion is of a higher integrity, and therefore more valid than anyone else?

Yes. I actually have a GT40 imagine that

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You want real "on edge"? How about has anyone run a Spartan Race, you know, using you own two arms and two legs to run an obstacle race, with fire, mud, barbed wire, up and down mountains, some real American Ninja Warrior-type stuff, and the unknown, now that's "on edge." That's living!

In Colorado it's called the Warrior Dash. I'm not really into the you pull me I pull you it takes a village stuff. I do ride my mountain bike a bit and have put on around 2k miles so far this year.

Another from LMC. How do you get that plate

RodKnock · #5 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 10:11 AM

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Yes. I actually have a GT40 imagine that

You're not the only one here that owns one. And Mark IV is a SPF dealer. And anyway, Tony and SFSDFGT own a Ford GT, which isn't a replica, and thus are on a "higher plain."

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In Colorado it's called the Warrior Dash. I'm not really into the you pull me I pull you it takes a village stuff. I do ride my mountain bike a bit and have put on around 2k miles so far this year.

A Spartan is different, but it takes too much time to explain. Also, when you run in the "Elite" group, there aren't any "helping hands." It's all you baby!

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Another from LMC. How do you get that plate

Nice and its painted an actual color too.

RodKnock · #6 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 12:48 AM

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Oy vey, if there is anyone in this thread who has actually driven a GT40 on the edge, I'm all ears. The rest of this is the chaff...

From LMC this weekend

"Driven on edge"? Sitting in a car driving in circles on parade laps isn't "on edge." You want real "on edge"? How about has anyone run a Spartan Race, you know, using you own two arms and two legs to run an obstacle race, with fire, mud, barbed wire, up and down mountains, some real American Ninja Warrior-type stuff, and the unknown, now that's "on edge." That's living! Parade laps in cars? Puh-leeze.

I'd invite you to next weekend's Spartan Race in the Bay Area, but it's sold out.

Dimis · #7 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 01:02 AM

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"Driven on edge"? Sitting in a car driving in circles on parade laps isn't "on edge." You want real "on edge"? How about has anyone run a Spartan Race, you know, using you own two arms and two legs to run an obstacle race, with fire, mud, barbed wire, up and down mountains, some real American Ninja Warrior-type stuff, and the unknown, now that's "on edge." That's living! Parade laps in cars? Puh-leeze.

I'd invite you to next weekend's Spartan Race in the Bay Area, but it's sold out.

RK - I did the Spartan race Melbourne 2013. Grab a bunch of mates a go for it. If what I think I know about you is correct - You'll absolutely love it!

It brings back your faith in humanity, most everyone reaches out to help everyone else through. It truly is beautiful.

RodKnock · #8 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 01:11 AM

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RK - I did the Spartan race Melbourne 2013. Grab a bunch of mates a go for it. If what I think I know about you is correct - You'll absolutely love it!

It brings back your faith in humanity, most everyone reaches out to help everyone else through. It truly is beautiful.

Thanks, but I do 2-3 a year for a few years now. Did you do a Sprint, Super or a Beast?

RodKnock · #9 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 10:38 AM

Ultimately, if I had the choice of just one car, the choice being between the GT40 replica or the GT3, I'd chose this, and it's an actual color too!

MHNCO · #10 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 11:40 AM

I don't know. These old farts seem to have a propensity to argue ad nauseam. I think they all have keyboards bolted on the front of their rockers and could go on forever.

I had a FGT, a bright red one. Fun car no doubt. My SPF GT40 blows it away in terms of visceral enjoyment as well as any oohs and awws competition. It's not even close. A poor little VW GT3 would not even be noticed if parked in the same lot as my SPF. Zzzzzzzzz

RodKnock · #11 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 12:00 PM

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I don't know. These old farts seem to have a propensity to argue ad nauseam. I think they all have keyboards bolted on the front of their rockers and could go on forever.

I had a FGT, a bright red one. Fun car no doubt. My SPF GT40 blows it away in terms of visceral enjoyment as well as any oohs and awws competition. It's not even close. A poor little VW GT3 would not even be noticed if parked in the same lot as my SPF. Zzzzzzzzz

I think the altitude is getting to ya.

Mike is calling us old farts? That's the pot calling the kettle black. Anyone under the age of something around 45-50 could care less about the GT40. No windows? You have to perform Olympic gymnastic movements just to get into the darn thing.

Nope, the younger crowd, like our resident dingleberry, NYC Guy, would gravitate to the GT3. So, it really depends on the age of the crowd in the parking lot. Personally, I'd check out both, but I steer first to the GT3, because it's NOT a replica and the GT3 has a coolness about it.

Even the Real One sold his Shelby Cobra replica and purchased a GT3RS.

MHNCO · #12 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 12:07 PM

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Anyone under the age of something around 45-50 could care less about the GT40

Wrong. They might not care less about the Cobra's but rest assured they fall over themselves when a GT40 pulls up. They all know exactly what it is even if they were born 40 years after the fact. The Cobra's to them look like older VWs without a roof. GT3? Yeah, that is cool because their dad has one for his DD grocery getter maybe.

SFSDFGT · #13 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 04:00 PM

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I think the altitude is getting to ya.

Mike is calling us old farts? That's the pot calling the kettle black. Anyone under the age of something around 45-50 could care less about the GT40. No windows? You have to perform Olympic gymnastic movements just to get into the darn thing.

Nope, the younger crowd, like our resident dingleberry, NYC Guy, would gravitate to the GT3. So, it really depends on the age of the crowd in the parking lot. Personally, I'd check out both, but I steer first to the GT3, because it's NOT a replica and the GT3 has a coolness about it.

Even the Real One sold his Shelby Cobra replica and purchased a GT3RS.

Not to stir the pot, but I fall into that younger demographic (Mike H in Colorado, I bet I am younger than you, you old fart), and there are only two Porsches that interest me- the Carrera GT and the 918 spyder.

RodKnock · #14 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 04:29 PM

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Not to stir the pot, but I fall into that younger demographic (Mike H in Colorado, I bet I am younger than you, you old fart), and there are only two Porsches that interest me- the Carrera GT and the 918 spyder.

I'll stir the pot further. There's chronological age and then there's biological age.

No doubt both are awesome Porsche's, but as someone who owns a FGT and CSX4000, you're biased, but in a good way.

I still think the preponderance of the 20, 30 and 40 somethings would flock to the modern cars, including but not limited to the GT3's. But that's just my opinion of our local car shows and cars and coffee here in Silicon Valley. They'll check out the replicas, Cobras, GT40s, Porsche Speedsters, etc., but they hang around the modern manufactured cars.

SFSDFGT · #15 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 04:53 PM

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I'll stir the pot further. There's chronological age and then there's biological age.

No doubt both are awesome Porsche's, but as someone who owns a FGT and CSX4000, you're biased, but in a good way.

I still think the preponderance of the 20, 30 and 40 somethings would flock to the modern cars, including but not limited to the GT3's. But that's just my opinion of our local car shows and cars and coffee here in Silicon Valley. They'll check out the replicas, Cobras, GT40s, Porsche Speedsters, etc., but they hang around the modern manufactured cars.

Yeah, do agree with you. I go to the local cars and coffee events, and even here in the sticks, very few of the, say, 25 and younger crowd pay much attention to any of my cars (save for the FGT). They don't know a hemi from a six pack. And I know that the Porsches are damn superb cars. Aesthetically though, they just don't do it for me. I guess that's why we have multiple manufacturers.

MHNCO · #16 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 07:02 PM

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there are only two Porsches that interest me- the Carrera GT and the...

There are very few cars that deserve a spot next to my GT40. The CGT is one of them.

RodKnock · #17 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 09:44 PM

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There are very few cars that deserve a spot next to my GT40. The CGT is one of them.

Get a grip of yourself and reality.

First, the CGT owner wouldn't feel the same way. The CGT is a limited production supercar (1,270 produced) that's sells for roughly $700,000 +/-.

The SPF GT40 is a replica of a 1960's race car that can be bought almost everyday of the year, except holidays. There's a red one for sale right now for $130,000 built by Olthoff. It's a car that requires an exemption in most states in order to be legally driven on roads.

In terms of attention-getting, the CGT wins hands down, 100 times of 100. And your GT40 would be relegated to the replica section with the Cobras, 1932 Fords, and Beck 550 Spyders.

You do realize that my Kirkham Cobra is a $100,000 base roller, no options. And the SPF GT40 is a $110,000-$115,000 base roller. That's a rounding error.

MHNCO · #18 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 11:59 AM

I think Rod likes the bling

MHNCO · #19 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 12:09 PM

This versus that? You must be kidding yes? I'm not even sure the roof of the GT40 would even come up to the door handle of that tank?

RodKnock · #20 (**permalink**) 07-11-2016, 12:17 PM

It's all about demographics, Refrigerator White Mike.

The 50, 60 and 70 somethings would check out the replica race car. The younger crowd would say "Hey, there's a PTS (Paint-To-Sample) GT3 with LWB (Lightweight Buckets), blah, blah, blah. 0-60 in 3 seconds, top speed 200mph, 11 second 1/4 mile with the A/C on and stereo blasting Drake or 21 Pilots.