Kit Difference between RCR40 & SPF GT40

speed220mph · #1 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 11:07 AM

Make sure you check out ERA: http://www.erareplicas.com/gt/gt.htm
ERA's MkI, MkII and MkII Spyder GT40 kits come with all body components fitted and bolted together. Know up front that you must have a lot of patience and, well, money can't be be much of a problem.

Rounded off, the basic kit comes for $55K. If you want, ERA will do a turnkey or somewhere inbetween that and the basic kit.

RodKnock · #2 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by speed220mph

Make sure you check out ERA: http://www.erareplicas.com/gt/gt.htm
ERA's MkI, MkII and MkII Spyder GT40 kits come with all body components fitted and bolted together. Know up front that you must have a lot of patience and, well, money can't be be much of a problem.

Rounded off, the basic kit comes for $55K. If you want, ERA will do a turnkey or somewhere inbetween that and the basic kit.

I think I read on ERA's website that they have a 2-year wait. That may rule them out. As I said, I'm just doing a little preliminary homework. What do you get for an extra $40K +/-? Again, besides the licensing fee packed into the price. What additional work is necessary with the RCR's?

ENTDOC · #3 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 03:46 PM

I have an SPF Mk11 and a CAV MK1 and both of those come very similiarly equipped. The RCR is a great kit and is the one I would get if I wanted to build the car, however after building 2 cobras including a Kirkham as well as 2 mustang fastbacks I was a little tired of the process. The SPF will require minimal work ( relative term) and will yield the most accurate to an original product available within a reasonable price range. The CAV is more like the RCR in that you end up with a super car that has taken many liberties in execution but still looks great and performs very well. I think if you follow the builds on the GT40 forum , the RCR cars turn out great,but do require a lot of work and end up costing more than you might think, but that is ok if you enjoy the process. I would not dream to try and convince anyone that one of these cars is better than another, just different, just as a Kirkham is different than an ERA or SPF. If originality is important to you then SPF is the way to go but it may cost a bit more.

ENTDOC · #4 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 03:53 PM

in specific answer to your question of what do you get for the 40 K difference; paint plus several hundred free hours to enjoy the ride

ENTDOC · #5 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 03:56 PM

Doug, I am afraid you will feel like a sardine in any GT40 no matter what anyone tells you. I am 5-9 and these things are small. It is funny, the CAV is easier to get into but the SPF feels bigger once you are in. I had one guy that sat in the CAV and he said it felt bigger than an RCR so who knows.

RodKnock · #6 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 04:02 PM

ENTDOC, oops, I was writing my response/question and you were responding at the same time.

Doug, the Kirkham is moving to a new address tomorrow (cross fingers...again). I'm hoping for a month, maybe two.

I'm not quite as tall as you Doug, but I would definitely sit and drive in both or whatever before buying anything. Tony already said I can take his "around the block."

ENTDOC · #7 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 04:06 PM

the body work on any kit is a very large portion of the work load, plumbing electrical is next and can be quite complex on a 40. fitting the AC and dash is time consuming, there are a ton of small things that have to be done. Loook at Bills build site on the 40 forum, he detailed it very well.The SPF comes with exaust by the way

dlampe · #8 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 09:41 PM

You can always give me a call. I will be happy to answer your questions. I will tell you that you can get an RCR built to the quality and completeness of the SPF for around 65K. The RCR will accept many different transaxles and it is larger on the inside due to the reuduced size of the side sponsoons. I could not drive the SPF, I just didn't fit but I am all legs. The SPF has a more original chassis, although my polished aluminum chassis will hold its own at many shows. The exterior is just as original as the SPF. They were both splashed off of original cars. I don't think there is 40k difference. The RCR is a roller when you get it and it will need to be put together and painted for the $45,000 price. I have a ton of time in my car. I personally like the idea of building the car to fit my personal taste but it will take you awhile to get it done. The SPF is basically finished when you get it, but like I said, Fran at RCR will finish the car for you. The RCR is easy to set up. I have checked corner weights and bump steer and it is all with in a very tight spec. I have the numbers for everyone to see. I have not seen these numbers posted anywhere from any other manufacturer. I would want to see that info before I bought anything. I really do like all the detail in an SPF. They build a very nice car. I think it comes down to what you want to own and how much you want to spend. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you. 618 322 6046.

(Brent, can you resize the picture so the thread is easier to read?)

dlampe · #9 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 09:51 PM

I just saw a question that I missed earlier. Yes Fran does a turn key minus. That's what I was talking about when I said I thought you could get one for around $65k but you should check with Fran. (warning: opinion inserted!) Just remember if it wasn't built in the 60's it is still a replica, I don't care what you call it. If you don't believe me, ask a guy who has an original and see what he thinks.

ENTDOC · #10 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008, 06:15 AM

if you can get a SPF for 74K now and an RCR cost 65 to get it to the same level, then you must decide if the 9K difference is worth it, not 40K as was stated. Also, I do not recall a single instance where someone around here or the GT40 forum has said that the SPF cars were not replicas. They are continuation GT40s, that is a fact. Whether that is important to you or not does not change it ,no more than you can change the fact that CSX 4000 cobras are Shelbys. A lot of people seem to hate that, but non the less, it is a fact.

Naumoff · #11 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008, 06:58 AM

I am 5'10" and 250# Chuck's CAV felt bigger than Dean's RCR but like Chuck said they are little cars. Both had plenty of head room.
The difference is mute. I would own either.
Get your roadster together. Plenty of room.

Chuck, Were you talking about me?

dlampe · #12 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008, 08:07 AM

Chuck, I undestand. I just have flash backs to Evan and the debates we used to have here. I think that there have been discussions on both forums about is a contiuation car a "real" one or not. Thats why I said it was just my opinion. I would hope the Rodknock would choose on the merits of the car, not this pedigree that has been created. I think this comes from a guy I met last year who I don't believe hangs out with us here. He had his nose up in the air about the fact that his car was a "continuation" car I mine was just a kit car. Like mine was on a VW chassis or something! SPF makes a great car and I don't think it needs the pedigree, real or not, to be a top player in the game. I hope to see a few more GT40's at Run and Gun this year so we can look at them side by side.

How much is an SPF roller with most options? I really haven't looked.