Welcome to Club Cobra.

You are currently viewing the world's largest resource for Shelby related information as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!


Go Back   Club Cobra > Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. > Kirkham Motorsports

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Keith Craft Racing
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Planet Cobra
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
November 2018
S M T W T F S
        1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30  

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree1Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 07-14-2010, 08:41 AM
undy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, Va & Port Charlotte, Fl.,
Posts: 2,124
Not Ranked     
Default

The LSC mount used for FEs is a 1964, 65 and 66 full size ford (Galaxy) FE mount. There IS NOT a polyurethane mount available for it. Ask me how I know... ANY other mount WILL require modification to LSC's frame PERIOD.
__________________
Too many toys?? never!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Sponsored Links
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2018, 02:38 PM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,053
Not Ranked     
Default

Has any company come up with a polyurethane mount for the LSC Cobra ?
__________________
Regards,
Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2018, 02:58 PM
undy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, Va & Port Charlotte, Fl.,
Posts: 2,124
Not Ranked     
Default

Not to my knowledge, I made a set of solid mounts and have been using them for years.
__________________
Too many toys?? never!
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2018, 03:21 PM
David Kirkham's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
Original Shelby Owner


 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo, Ut
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
Posts: 6,973
Not Ranked     
Default

I would imagine our mounts should be pretty easy to get to fit in another chassis. They pivot through a center bolt so they have a wide range of where they can mount. We have sold a ton of them.

We even make a mount that is 1/2" lower than normal for guys with tall motors (High Risers, Cammers, etc.)

David
__________________
David Kirkham, President Kirkham Motorsports
Manufacturer Aluminum Body Kit Cars and supplier to Shelby* for their CSX4000, CSX7000, and CSX8000 289 and 427 Cobra
*Kirkham Motorsports is not affiliated with Ford or Carroll Shelby or any of their trademarks.
"Fear is the thief of dreams."
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2018, 04:34 PM
Grubby's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Clayton, IN
Cobra Make, Engine: between cars ERA 755 sold, ERA 178 sold
Posts: 679
Not Ranked     
Default

I am finishing up the molds to cast Polyurethane ERA style mounts. I poured a test set in 80 durometer, but think 94 durometer may work better.

My goal is to eliminate contact between the left header and the body.

John
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2018, 04:59 PM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,053
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Kirkham View Post
I would imagine our mounts should be pretty easy to get to fit in another chassis. They pivot through a center bolt so they have a wide range of where they can mount. We have sold a ton of them.

David, I haven't checked Undy's mounts out, but I beleive him. But, your pivot sounds like it my work on our Cobra's. Please post a information and photo link.

We even make a mount that is 1/2" lower than normal for guys with tall motors (High Risers, Cammers, etc.)

David
I wish I had known that you have a 1/2" lower mount, back some years ago. My air cleaner hit my hood so the 1/2" would have solved it. I did make a change though after I scuffed my paint.
__________________
Regards,
Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 02-05-2018, 06:51 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Near Farragut, TN
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra 427, GT350
Posts: 219
Not Ranked     
Default

FE mounts:
Motor Mounts - Olthoff Racing
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 02-09-2018, 08:20 AM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,053
Not Ranked     
Default

I'm looking at the Kirkham mounts, but are these the exact one's for the LSC ?
They look like mine.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Moun...NZ9gU5&vxp=mtr
__________________
Regards,
Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 02-09-2018, 08:23 AM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,053
Not Ranked     
Default

ERA-


Engine Mount Motion Restrictor
To prevent excessive motion and/or shear failure in the left engine mount, a bolt may be put through the mount as shown.

Drill a 7/16" hole all the way through the mount where indicated.
Insert a 7/16" x 2"L bolt through from the engine side. You may have to "screw" the bolt through the rubber portion where it contricts because of non-perfect drilling.
Install a stover (locking) nut on the chassis side so that there is about 0.010" end play. For competition you may want to tighten the nut to zero clearance. No washers are necessary.
Mount modification
Two views
__________________
Regards,
Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 02-09-2018, 08:28 AM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,053
Not Ranked     
Default

Pic did not upload above ?

http://www.erareplicas.com/427man/en...tmod/index.htm
__________________
Regards,
Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2018, 10:12 AM
jwoodard's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Previous owner of SPF#1938, with a Keith Craft 496ci Genesis 427 side oiler, 667 FWHP, 633 FWTQ, 560 RWHP, 550 RWTQ.
Posts: 1,280
Not Ranked     
Default

Craigs Cobras makes a nice set of polyurethane style mounts : https://www.craigscobras.com/parts/mounts/index.htm
__________________
Jim Woodard

Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't botherin' you none.
Reply With Quote
  #32 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2018, 05:33 AM
undy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, Va & Port Charlotte, Fl.,
Posts: 2,124
Not Ranked     
Default

Lone star uses a very proprietary mount. None of these mounts will work without MAJOR modifications to the frame. I've been through this with mine.
__________________
Too many toys?? never!
Reply With Quote
  #33 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2018, 08:30 AM
Grubby's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Clayton, IN
Cobra Make, Engine: between cars ERA 755 sold, ERA 178 sold
Posts: 679
Not Ranked     
Default

It seems ERA uses the same mounts as LSC. I couldn't find urethane mounts either, so I made some. Here is my picture gallery -

URL to my clubcobra posting with pictures is linked.Do you need urethane motor mounts? Here is DIY

The first pair was made with one time use plaster of Paris molds. I removed the vulcanized rubber from a new pair of mounts and poured in 80 durometer polyurethane. I decided to use the bolt thru as recommended by ERA as an insurance against failure of the mount. I used it on both the Left and Right. Just leave the bolt slightly loose and it has not impact on harshness.

I am finishing up some fiberglass molds and plan to make several sets of motor mounts out of both 80 and 94 durometer polyurethane.

I have had two ERAs and observed several others that the Left headers slightly contact the body. My theory is that the polyurethane mounts will stop the contact.

The contact seems to be caused by excessive stretching of the LH mount and excessive compression of the RH mount. The LH mount can be easily fixed with the limiting bolt modification. The RH mount is the tougher one to fix, without making it more resistant to compression.

I considered welding a limiting feature inside the motor mounts and than casting over it. Much like is done on many other cars. It is a lot of extra work and doesn't accomplish anything more than limiting bolts will do. Plus the limiting bolts are adjustable. If you tighten the LH bolt it completely eliminates stretching of the mount.

John

Last edited by Grubby; 02-11-2018 at 08:34 AM.. Reason: added URL to try and make it work.
Reply With Quote
  #34 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2018, 09:28 AM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,053
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by undy View Post
Lone star uses a very proprietary mount. None of these mounts will work without MAJOR modifications to the frame. I've been through this with mine.
I don't have my LSC here, so I can't look at it, but it sucks that a better made mount can't be used without major sugery.

Do you have a photo bud ?
__________________
Regards,
Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #35 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2018, 07:21 AM
undy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, Va & Port Charlotte, Fl.,
Posts: 2,124
Not Ranked     
Default

Photo of what?

I've not modified the LSC's frame. I simply made a set of solid steel mounts.
__________________
Too many toys?? never!
Reply With Quote
  #36 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2018, 09:09 AM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,053
Not Ranked     
Default

Photo of your mount's....
__________________
Regards,
Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #37 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2018, 03:14 PM
undy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, Va & Port Charlotte, Fl.,
Posts: 2,124
Not Ranked     
Default

Name:  IMAG0003.jpg
Views: 62
Size:  96.7 KB

Name:  IMAG0006.jpg
Views: 57
Size:  97.3 KB

Name:  IMAG0007.jpg
Views: 60
Size:  92.2 KB

Name:  IMAG0010.jpg
Views: 60
Size:  95.7 KB
__________________
Too many toys?? never!
Reply With Quote
  #38 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2018, 04:44 PM
Grubby's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Clayton, IN
Cobra Make, Engine: between cars ERA 755 sold, ERA 178 sold
Posts: 679
Not Ranked     
Default

Undy,

I like those mounts. That was exactly one of the improvement options I considered.

My only concern with solid mounts is stress cracks in the frame over time.

John
Reply With Quote
  #39 (permalink)  
Old 02-13-2018, 11:05 AM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,053
Not Ranked     
Default

Ok, so it's a solid block of steel that you drilled two offset holes that bolts to the frame and a plate with three holes on top.
What are the three holes for ? Please explain with details.
__________________
Regards,
Kevin

Last edited by FUNFER2; 02-13-2018 at 11:10 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #40 (permalink)  
Old 02-13-2018, 12:35 PM
undy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, Va & Port Charlotte, Fl.,
Posts: 2,124
Not Ranked     
Default

No, I simply caged a stock motor mount in with 1/8" x 1" strap steel and mig welded it all together.
__________________
Too many toys?? never!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy