Its over, the Dems win

[Ralphy]

He was only covered by Medicaid. Your crow is served.

When a stray pit bull attacked 12-year-old Dontae Adams last August, tearing a chunk of the boy’s upper lip from his face, his mother took him to the University of Chicago Medical Center. Instead of rushing Dontae into surgery, however, Angela Adams said, the hospital’s staff began pressing her about insurance.

“I asked them why that should matter. My child’s lip was literally gone,” said Adams, a medical assistant whose only insurance is her son’s Medicaid coverage.

Adams said she demanded that the medical staff admit Dontae but that they refused. The emergency room staff gave Dontae a tetanus shot, a dose of morphine, prescriptions for antibiotics and Tylenol 3, and told Adams to “follow up with Cook County” in one week, according to medical center documents.

Where did you read TRANSFERED? Hmmm....

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2...ucmedicalfeb15

[Excaliber]

How embarrasing for Dante that you would reveal the nature of his insurance. Hasn't the poor little guy suffered enough?

[Ralphy]

Not as bad as you chompin on a bowl of crow. Is that crow pretzel shaped?

[Excaliber]

Would you like some cheese with your whine?

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Here's the bottom line about Health Insurance industry profits.

There among the highest in the nation. I'm laughing at you guy's defending the poor Insurance folks just struggling to get by.

...Ernie closes the gate have successfully boon doggled the conservatives into supporting a cause no one even gives a rip about. Those poor helpless starving insurance companies. Now how pathetic an argument is that?

Mount's his trusty steed, Unicorn, and rides off under the rainbow. Merry Christmas to all!

Once again an opinion where facts are needed.
Google health insurance profits. Every source with a research staff says one things. Blogs with no source but their own opinions says another. ACORN cites 400% profit increases by insurers but cannot cite a single source. They pull the number out of thin air and the kool aids and unicorn riders take it like gospel. Real sources, even ones like ABC, no friend of conservatives, say health insurance profits are not large.

Read some sources with research staffs.



http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091025/D9BI4D6O1.html

SIX PERCENT!

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/healt...ory?id=9036632

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-debate-heats/

http://www.tdn.com/news/opinion/arti...cc4c002e0.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/print/52418

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/08/...nks-86-by.html

[Excaliber]

The insurance and the drug companies can't wait to get this Health Bill passed. Their profits, all ready high, will soar dramatically!

Typcial PROFIT at 6% for a large insurance company is around a $100,000,000, more depending on how you crunch the numbers. Poor things, their barely making it...

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

The insurance and the drug companies can't wait to get this Health Bill passed. Their profits, all ready high, will soar dramatically!

Typcial PROFIT at 6% for a large insurance company is around a $100,000,000, more depending on how you crunch the numbers. Poor things, their barely making it...

Companies do not survive on Dollars. They survive on percentages. If a company makes a Trillion dollars with a 4% profit margin, a 5% increase in costs breaks them. Can you say GM?

[Excaliber]

Someday, I'm having Dan over for dinner (crow, with a nice port whine), only a matter of time...

No wait, I'll have the "port", Dan would prefer the starboard whine.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Someday, I'm having Dan over for dinner (crow, with a nice port whine), only a matter of time...

No wait, I'll have the "port", Dan would prefer the starboard whine.

Nonsense and ridicule, the mainstay of liberal logic. Facts have no bearing on their thinking. Since you lack facts, knowledge and maturity, I'll no longer bother arguing with your childish silliness.

[PDUB]

Originally Posted by Wes Tausend

Sorry it was unclear. I know it's shocking. My share of health insurance, therefore healthcare, costs as much as my share of taxes needed to run the entire rest of the country.

This is according to my monthly with-holding statements and known insurance costs.

This is pretty much meaningless, since it depends on both your particular ins. policy and your tax bracket... and, no doubt, both are too high! But, with a statement like this you imply that the cost of healthcare in the US is equivalent to the cost of running the whole government, which is inaccurate.

Originally Posted by Wes Tausend

I live in a northern state as well and it is not uncommon for folks to cross the border to the nearest good medical center in a larger city...

Surprised to hear that the good folk of Bismark head to Canada for their healthcare! Seems like a long drive. In all of the experience that I have in dealing with patients... in all conversations with folks from Canada, or even the UK for that matter... I have never once heard of Americans going to use other systems out of choice. No doubt it happens out of necessity on rare occasions, and by choice even less, but not very often (we are not talking about extenuating geographic circumstances that would trump choice on either side). And never once did I hear from them that, "we prefer to get healthcare in Canada, but we are settling for the second rate services we get here in the states..." On the contrary, they complained about their home systems, and that is why they came here.

Originally Posted by Wes Tausend

I imagine Wayne Maybury and others are worried Canada might lose their system if the US caves in to the huge healthcare juggernaut scam we have here.

Huh???

Originally Posted by Wes Tausend

I see you worked in health-care PDUB. I imagine you didn't get much of the money. People that work rarely do. You might reconsider which tree to bark up.

Wes

***

Gee, thanks for the tip Wes.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

But wait, Dante DID have insurance. So, whats really going on here?

What is really going on is since that Medicaid insurance pays so little, when they pay, many people (doctors and hospitals) view Medicaid insurance as a money loser, kind of like a level 1 trauma center. So treating people on Medicaid is almost like treating people who are un-insured.

Many doctors choose to opt out of that plan, and require these patients to pay them cash rather than agree to accept whatever Medicaid is willing to pay.