Look at this again, and remember......... - Page 2

J. T. Toad · #21 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 12:50 PM

just too add... they have met and spoke together in an informal town hall type meeting....

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,3145888.story

Very interesting quotes, especially about Clarence Thomas.

427 S/O · #22 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 12:52 PM

The bore-ack 'O' mobile is running out of gas.............

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...oll/index.html

VRM · #23 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 01:00 PM

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"What is behind me is not important!" Franco Bertollini

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana (IIRC)

VRM · #24 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 01:21 PM

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Advantage?. why would the number of people make any difference?. It doesn't!. There would be an equal number of dems. and rep. asking questions. Your really desperate for some kind of come back, and you don't mind if there ludcrious points that make no sense?. Which they are!.
'O'NO! cannot handle pressure so his handlers script his every move. More and more folks see this and that's one of many reasons his ratings have been in a steady decline since the primaries. Delete 'change', add 'appeasement' and you have another reason most folks see where he's headed (down). Your weak Steve...very weak.

Perry, it gives him a huge advantage. Obama enjoys, and feeds off of the rock star adulation of a large crowd. If he can make 50% of 300 people agree with what he is saying then he is not going to get that mob mentality to work for him, but if he can get 50% of 30,000 people, then he will. It will not matter what he says so much as how he says it, and if he pushes the right buttons by using the right buzzwords. That mob might go so far as to drown out, boo, or otherwise aggravate McCain and put him off his game. This is where Obama could have an advantage. Ever been to a Baptist Sermon version of dueling pianos? Neither have I, but I suspect that the result would be something similar, but McCains piano would have all the black keys missing.

Have you ever given a speech in front of 10 people? How about 1000? Can you really tell me that there is no difference?

Steve

Jamo · #25 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by J. T. Toad

just too add... they have met and spoke together in an informal town hall type meeting....

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,3145888.story

Very interesting quotes, especially about Clarence Thomas.

Actully...that venue was nothing like a town hall meeting. They each were interviewed by the church leader in separate sittings...not even together on stage. The questions were sent in ahead of time and read by the minister, and each of them were giving a general idea of the subjects (but not the exact questions). There was no give and take with the crowd or with each other whatsoever. More an intelligent Baba Wawa interview than a debate or town hall...McCain kicked ass by the way.

Jamo · #26 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 427 S/O

The bore-ack 'O' mobile is running out of gas.............

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...oll/index.html

Yup, I said it several posts before yours.

Jamo · #27 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 01:36 PM

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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana (IIRC)

...which is why folks remember Carter and Clinton stripping us of any semblence of security of this nation and they won't let it happen again.

Honestly...let's cut to the chase and be frank about this: Obama's a POS.

I know...you guys keep putting up cartoonish heros...Bore, the wrinkled long-face and now a dead-on replica of Mickey Mouse...and you keep losing. Then you win Congress and you end up with the two POS leaders who can't do squat even with majorities.

Damn...it must suck to be a democrat.

392cobra · #28 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 01:47 PM

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Honestly...let's cut to the chase and be frank about this: Obama's a POS.

I know...you guys keep putting up cartoonish heros...Bore, the wrinkled long-face and now a dead-on replica of Mickey Mouse...and you keep losing. Then you win Congress and you end up with the two POS leaders who can't do squat even with majorities.

Damn...it must suck to be a democrat.

You certainly have a way with words.

427 S/O · #29 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 02:03 PM

Like I said Steve, you make no sense and won't stay on point!. Much like the dumbacrat convention where the Democrats have suddenly developed a keen sense of morality. John Edwards has been banned from making a speech at the democratic convention for having an affair and lying about it.

In his place Bill Clinton will be speaking.

What am I missing?

427 S/O · #30 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 02:06 PM

Steve, I've taught between 10-100 people, is that the same as speaking????????

VRM · #31 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 02:07 PM

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Honestly...let's cut to the chase and be frank about this: Obama's a POS.

Yep, and I have no intention of voting for him. I had no intention of voting for Hilary either. McCain is a POS as well.

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Damn...it must suck to be a democrat.

I'm sure it must...probably about as much as it sucks to be a Republican.

BTW, you mentioned Carter and Clinton. I met them both years ago.
Clinton showed up at the place I was eating lunch at during his first campaign. I shook his hand and almost immediately checked for my wallet. The guy has loads of charisma, but he also reminded me of the ultimate used car salesman.

I met Carter during a reconstruction project for Bell South after a hurricane. He showed up and 'rallied the troops' before going off to help build houses a block or two away. He seemed like a really nice guy - too nice to be POTUS, and I just couldn't see him being CinC of anything other than the Peace Corps.

Steve

J. T. Toad · #32 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 02:10 PM

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Actully...that venue was nothing like a town hall meeting. They each were interviewed by the church leader in separate sittings...not even together on stage. The questions were sent in ahead of time and read by the minister, and each of them were giving a general idea of the subjects (but not the exact questions). There was no give and take with the crowd or with each other whatsoever. More an intelligent Baba Wawa interview than a debate or town hall...McCain kicked ass by the way.

I actully don't know of any town hall meeting which actually meets the definition of a town hall meeting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_hall_meeting

thus why I stated "informal". This might be the closest they come to an open debate. Do you think the Clinton years had non-scripted town hall meetings? How about Kerry? (Don't taze me Bro! Don't taze me!)

Although they may not have been interviewed together, they did appear on stage at the same time.

But I am sure that this is "above my pay grade." (what kind of POS stupid response is that?)

The point and intent of the original post, draws the same conclusion.

VRM · #33 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 02:15 PM

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Steve, I've taught between 10-100 people, is that the same as speaking????????

Close enough...but that makes you one out of 100 people. Go ahead and ask those 100 people how many of them would be comfortable teaching something to 100 others. Most people would get stage fright and freak out. One or two of them would soak it up even if they had no idea what they are teaching about.

VRM · #34 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 427 S/O

Like I said Steve, you make no sense and won't stay on point!. Much like the dumbacrat convention where the Democrats have suddenly developed a keen sense of morality. John Edwards has been banned from making a speech at the democratic convention for having an affair and lying about it.

In his place Bill Clinton will be speaking.

What am I missing?

The thing I despise about Repugnant types is that you tell me that I am off point, but then you prattle on about John Edwards - when did that even enter into the conversation about Obama?

J. T. Toad · #35 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 02:32 PM

I got it. Exposing the hypocrisy of exchanging one adulterer for another compared to the morality standard the democratic party professes to subscribe.

Well played.

J. T. Toad · #36 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 02:34 PM

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I don't think anyone here is any more "repugnant" than any one else.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/repugnant

392cobra · #37 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 02:44 PM

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I got it. Exposing the hypocrisy of exchanging one adulterer for another compared to the morality standard the democratic party professes to subscribe.

Well played.

I think this applies to the DNC...

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

VRM · #38 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 03:07 PM

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I don't think anyone here is any more "repugnant" than any one else.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/repugnant

It's a commonly used malapropism to denote Reupblicans - similar to the use of 'dumbacrats' - though I think you knew that...

And BTW, as was pointed out before, 'Edwards' isn't running...
Not all that clever if he has to steal the idea from someone else to point out that hypocrisy...

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I think this applies to the DNC...

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

I completely agree - problem is that the GOP is following their lead.

Steve

427 S/O · #39 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 04:10 PM

Steve, you choose to ignore the hard questions, won't stay on point, ramble on about a non issue, then question others about ignoring issues. Before you start despising someone, take a hard look in the mirror. There you will see someone who criticizes everything and believes in nothing........

Go change your oil......

Jamo · #40 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 04:36 PM

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I actully don't know of any town hall meeting which actually meets the definition of a town hall meeting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_hall_meeting

thus why I stated "informal". This might be the closest they come to an open debate. Do you think the Clinton years had non-scripted town hall meetings? How about Kerry? (Don't taze me Bro! Don't taze me!)

Although they may not have been interviewed together, they did appear on stage at the same time.

But I am sure that this is "above my pay grade." (what kind of POS stupid response is that?)

The point and intent of the original post, draws the same conclusion.

Hate to belabor the point, JT, but we all do that on the Lounge which is why we have threads...

They merely shook hands onstage as they passed. McCain was in a soundproof room while Obama was interviewed, and Obama left when McCain was being interviewed.

Unlike the current form of town hall meetings...no unscripted questions came directly from the audience, with no follow up to the answers of the opponent.

McCain does well in the unscripted venues...Obama reads well.