Point of No Return (Mark Steyn)

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by Jamo

No...following your own logic, it must be your fault. He is the ying to your yang.

So, let’s recap Jamo – using your logic, I’m yang; represents masculinity, light, and warmth. Heaven, sunshine, hard, good, white, large, and odd (numbers) are also yang.

VRM is yin - the female, cold, dark, passive power. Earth, rain, soft, evil, black, small, even (numbers), are also yin.

It works for me, Jamo – therefore, VRM is more or less an easily confused, nocturnal bi-polar, obsessive compulsive dramaqueen – right?

I'm hoping that this is not a thoughtcrime. I'm not looking for another speeding ticket.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

I'm hoping that this is not a thoughtcrime. I'm not looking for another speeding ticket.

Tickets are never issued for thoughts...only for poorly-thought out actions.

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by computerworks

Tickets are never issued for thoughts...only for poorly-thought out actions.

Or even, well-thought out actions!

[computerworks]

no...listen carefully this time..." poorly-thought out actions."

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by computerworks

no...listen carefully this time..." poorly-thought out actions."

Another threat, Computerworks? Is that serving the needs of the Club?

[computerworks]

(...sigh.) ...you betcha!

[VRM]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

Actually, I've given some thought to Ron Paul with the outcome that he's a nutjob or perhaps a nutbar like some posters here.

Thumbs down......because......

A lot of Ron Paul's supporters are incredibly irritating. For whatever reason, his supporters as a group are far more annoying than those of all the other candidates put together. It's like every spammer, truther, troll, and flake on the net got together under one banner.

Ron Paul is an isolationist: The last time the United States retreated to isolationism was after WW1 and the result was WW2.

Ron Paul wants to immediately cut and run in Iraq.

In the single most repulsive moment of the entire Presidential race so far, Ron Paul excused Al-Qaeda's attack on America with this comment about 9/11: "They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years." In other words, America deserved to be attacked by Al-Qaeda. This is the sort of facile comment you'd expect to hear from an America-hating left winger like Michael Moore or Noam Chomsky, not from a Republican running for President -- or from any Republican in office for that matter.

Ron Paul is the single, least electable major candidate running for the presidency in either party: Libertarianism simply is not considered to be a mainstream political philosophy in the United States by most Americans. That's why the Libertarian candidate in 2004, Michael Badnarik, only pulled .3% of the vote. Even more notably, Ron Paul only pulled .47% of the vote when he ran at the top of the Libertarian ticket in 1988.

Is Ron Paul serious about small government, enforcing the Constitution, and enforcing the borders? Yes, and those are all admirable qualities. However, he also has a host of enormous flaws that makes him unqualified to be President and undesirable, even as a Republican Congressmen. Besides, I really don't see a 'leader' when I've seen him speak, I see a nutjob that no one in their right mind would follow.

CdC,
Why do you think Iran stormed our embassy? 'Cause they hate us for our freedom?
Paul is a bit more of an isolationist than I would prefer, but he is on the right track with not interfering with other countries. If I came to your house and started telling you what changes you needed to make then I would probably get shot. It works pretty much the same on a national level.

Past performance in elections has no bearing on the worthiness of the candidates running. And since Carter, Clinton, and Bush were all elected it does not say much for the electorates ability to pick good leaders. Ron Paul is not the best choice for a few reasons, but Ted Roosevelt isn't running, so in my view he is the best available for this election.
By voting for McCain you will be voting to continue the bulk of the problems we have now. If you vote for Obama you will be voting for a bunch of new problems.

BTW, personal comments? Did you run out of argument again? You should just leave my yang out of it...you just can't grasp things that big.

MDmull,
I've told my DNC friends that Bush is the result of 8 years of Clinton. Obama will be the result of 8 years of Bush. I'm an engineer - I deal with events and results all the time. I made a prediction for one of the past elections that the DNC would take control of Congress (and I was challenged on it by one of our fellow posters, but he chickened out of the bet), and that was based on the reaction to policies of Bush and the GOP Congress. This election will be more of the same (though the GOP forgot to remind voters that the DNC had a majority for the last 2 years.).
Don't worry - in 4 or 8 years the pendulum will probably swing back the other way.

[cobra de capell]

BTW, personal comments? Did you run out of argument again? You should just leave my yang out of it...you just can't grasp things that big.

Yin got to you, VRM?

Just keep up the entertainment - it's nice to have a few Ron Paul nutbars posting here - it's sort of like slumming without have to actually go to a trailer park.

By voting for McCain you will be voting to continue the bulk of the problems we have now. If you vote for Obama you will be voting for a bunch of new problems.

And voting for Ron Paul - YIKES! but perfect for all buggerin' wankers.

From http://http://blogcritics.org/archiv...12/0516292.php

But instead, here's what Ron Paul the supposed libertarian and avowed constitutionalist endorsed:


Government seizure and equitable redistribution of wealth
A carbon tax on every man woman and child in America
Converting all elections to electronic voting
The reversal of all tort reforms
The elimination of the US Senate
Shutting down all immigration, including legal immigration
A federal ban on nuclear power
Forced conversion of all businesses to worker run collectives
Nationalizing all large banks and media companies
Repealing the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Amendments
Criminalization of homosexuality
A 30 hour work week for 40 hours pay
A federal ban on all pornography
The universal right of states to secede from the union
Comprehensive, taxpayer supported socialized medicine
_____

OK, a few but others are way over the top - RP is a nutbar.

[mdmull]

Too many of the younger voters don't remember or were not alive to remember the Carter years. I'd really not like repeating them but fear we will. Perhaps a more apt description of the reasons for the apparent pendulum swings is the general public's insistence on relying on the "movement" of the popular opinion, rather than rational thought in their voting choice.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

BTW, personal comments? Did you run out of argument again? You should just leave my yang out of it...you just can't grasp things that big.

Yin got to you, VRM?

Just keep up the entertainment - it's nice to have a few Ron Paul nutbars posting here - it's sort of like slumming without have to actually go to a trailer park.

By voting for McCain you will be voting to continue the bulk of the problems we have now. If you vote for Obama you will be voting for a bunch of new problems.

And voting for Ron Paul - YIKES! but perfect for all buggerin' wankers.

From http://http://blogcritics.org/archiv...12/0516292.php

But instead, here's what Ron Paul the supposed libertarian and avowed constitutionalist endorsed:


Government seizure and equitable redistribution of wealth
A carbon tax on every man woman and child in America
Converting all elections to electronic voting
The reversal of all tort reforms
The elimination of the US Senate
Shutting down all immigration, including legal immigration
A federal ban on nuclear power
Forced conversion of all businesses to worker run collectives
Nationalizing all large banks and media companies
Repealing the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Amendments
Criminalization of homosexuality
A 30 hour work week for 40 hours pay
A federal ban on all pornography
The universal right of states to secede from the union
Comprehensive, taxpayer supported socialized medicine
_____

OK, a few but others are way over the top - RP is a nutbar.

Care to cite your source on that? I think you copy/pasted the wrong guy, or maybe you just stopped in at your usual 'Propagandists Unite' page. And the link you posted is bogus.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by mdmull

Too many of the younger voters don't remember or were not alive to remember the Carter years. I'd really not like repeating them but fear we will. Perhaps a more apt description of the reasons for the apparent pendulum swings is the general public's insistence on relying on the "movement" of the popular opinion, rather than rational thought in their voting choice.

Yep, I think that is absolutely true. Rather than make informed decisions based on platform positions they jump on the bandwagon of public opinion.

[427 S/O]

Better than straddling a fence!, once off you gotta go here or there!.

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by VRM

Care to cite your source on that? I think you copy/pasted the wrong guy, or maybe you just stopped in at your usual 'Propagandists Unite' page. And the link you posted is bogus.

Here you go, wanker....

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/09/12/051629.php

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by VRM

Yep, I think that is absolutely true. Rather than make informed decisions based on platform positions they jump on the bandwagon of public opinion.

Or. jump on the post and become a post turtle going nowhere, waiting for Ron Paul to pass by.....