Uzi micro submachine gun

Ron61 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-30-2008, 01:37 AM

I am in total agreement. The Father was at fault and should be held to account. If the gun dealer had refused to let the kid fire the Uzi, the Father would have sued and won. It is really fortunate that he never sprayed the whole area and hurt or killed more. Morons will never understand that a machine gun, especially one as light as a Uzi are not like firing a heavy rifle. I still remember my first time I fired a Grease Gun in Korea. Took some getting used to.

Ron

jhv48 · #2 (**permalink**) 10-30-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron61

I am in total agreement. The Father was at fault and should be held to account. If the gun dealer had refused to let the kid fire the Uzi, the Father would have sued and won. It is really fortunate that he never sprayed the whole area and hurt or killed more. Morons will never understand that a machine gun, especially one as light as a Uzi are not like firing a heavy rifle. I still remember my first time I fired a Grease Gun in Korea. Took some getting used to.

Ron

Don't worry, the father will pay the ultimate price. HIS WIFE WILL NEVER LET HIM FORGET THAT HE KILLED THEIR SON!

SP01715 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-31-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron61

I am in total agreement. The Father was at fault and should be held to account. If the gun dealer had refused to let the kid fire the Uzi, the Father would have sued and won. It is really fortunate that he never sprayed the whole area and hurt or killed more. Morons will never understand that a machine gun, especially one as light as a Uzi are not like firing a heavy rifle. I still remember my first time I fired a Grease Gun in Korea. Took some getting used to.

Ron

First of all an Uzi is not a machine gun, it is a sub machine gun. I used to own a Mini Uzi and it is a very easy weapon to shoot because of being chambered in 9mm. It is very similar to an MP5 which a lot of SWAT teams use because of the ease of keeping it on target even in full auto or burst mode.

I actually had the chance to fire a Grease Gun while I was in the Army, and you are correct. But being chambered in .45 (which the grease gun is) is a big difference from a 9mm. BTW, the Grease Gun was the biggest POS I have ever fired. I was glad to get my M-16 back. lol...

I had my first gun when I was 6. I was taught by my father how to handle, shoot and care for a firearm properly. I also gained valuable experience in the Army and in law enforcement when it comes to using a firearm around others. muzzle discipline is something that everyone should learn. I see people on civilian ranges that don't have a clue about keeping their weapon pointed away from yourself or someone else. If we can do it when clearing a house it should not be that hard on the range.

If you don't know enough about firearms do properly train or supervise someone else (as is seems was the fathers case here), then you should seek out someone who does. I feel sorry for the kid, his dad was a moron.

Ron61 · #4 (**permalink**) 11-01-2008, 02:53 AM

SPO175,

Ok, my bad, I called the Uzi a machine gun instead of a Sub Machine gun and I know that it is chambered for 9 MM. As for the Grease Gun, in my job I didn't have room for a rifle and they didn't have any Thompsons available so they gave me a Grease Gun with the idea that if I had to use it, I would be in very close quarters and could just spray the whole area. I carried a 45 also but never could find one that felt good in my hand and just didn't like it. I like the 45 caliber because of the stopping power.

As for training my Father started me when I was in 1st grade and he was a stickler for safety. In then past I worked with the local gun range and IRA people that do the classes for police qualifications and also for people wanting to get a carry permit. And I couldn't agree more with you about people needing to know more about firearms before using them. One example a few years ago we had a class that was set up based on the FBI night shooting. They would run the target downrange and the people had 5 seconds to look at it and then the lights went out and you couldn't see your hand in front of your face. This was the memory part, not the part where you use the small pinlight. They had to fire 5 rounds in 5 seconds. Command to Fire and a scream instantly. Stop firing, lights on and here was this guy in his 30s jumping around holding his hand. I though that maybe he had gotten his thumb or hand in the slide, but no, it was dark and to be sure he had the barrel pointed away from him he put his finger on the end of it and pulled the trigger. Only got the tip of the finger, but he failed the course. John told him that if he had his hand around the grip, and his finger on the trigger , the weapon had to be pointed away from him unless he had his hand turned back toward him. He wanted to be a deputy.

When I returned from Korea, because of my MOS and the fact they had no such stuff here, I spent my last fewmonths in the testing section for new weapons. Of course most of the ones they were trying out back then are long gone now, but I did fire about every type weapon the military had back then.

Sorry that I upset you by calling the Uzi a machine gun instead of a sub machine gun.

Ron

Excaliber · #5 (**permalink**) 11-01-2008, 10:19 AM

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Somebody, anybody, PLEASE define the term "assault weapon" for me once and for all.

Now let me get this straight...

Someone actually asks for a definition of 'assault weapon' as it regards an Uzi Submachine gun?

Seriously, if such a person can't understand why this weapon would not fit that description they shouldn't be allowed to own a gun of any kind!

Silverback51 · #6 (**permalink**) 11-01-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Excaliber

Now let me get this straight...

Someone actually asks for a definition of 'assault weapon' as it regards an Uzi Submachine gun?

Seriously, if such a person can't understand why this weapon would not fit that description they shouldn't be allowed to own a gun of any kind!

Which end of that thing does the bullet come out of?

SP01715 · #7 (**permalink**) 11-03-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Excaliber

Now let me get this straight...

Someone actually asks for a definition of 'assault weapon' as it regards an Uzi Submachine gun?

Seriously, if such a person can't understand why this weapon would not fit that description they shouldn't be allowed to own a gun of any kind!

Actually if the Uzi in question is a semi auto it would not be considered an assault weapon. An assault weapon defined by the military is capable of both semi and full auto fire (or burst). The idiots in the media often define weapons as assault weapons that are not.

It's kind of like a Cobra relplica. It may look like the military version (full auto capable) but it is just a look a like.