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06-21-2009, 03:27 PM
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Study Ranks America’s Most Liberal and Conservative Cities
Study Ranks America’s Most Liberal and Conservative Cities
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b57_1232751978
Rank City State
Americas 25 Most Liberal Cities(in descending order)
1 Detroit Michigan
2 Gary Indiana
3 Berkeley California
4 Washington, D.C. Dist. of Columbia
5 Oakland California
6 Inglewood California
7 Newark New Jersey
8 Cambridge Massachusetts
9 San Francisco California
10 Flint Michigan
11 Cleveland Ohio
12 Hartford Connecticut
13 Paterson New Jersey
14 Baltimore Maryland
15 New Haven Connecticut
16 Seattle Washington
17 Chicago Illinois
18 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
19 Birmingham Alabama
20 St. Louis Missouri
21 New York New York
22 Providence Rhode Island
23 Minneapolis Minnesota
24 Boston Massachusetts
25 Buffalo New York
Americas 25 Most Conservative Cities(in descending order)
Rank City State
1 Provo Utah
2 Lubbock Texas
3 Abilene Texas
4 Hialeah Florida
5 Plano Texas
6 Colorado Springs Colorado
7 Gilbert Arizona
8 Bakersfield California
9 Lafayette Louisiana
10 Orange California
11 Escondido California
12 Allentown Pennsylvania
13 Mesa Arizona
14 Arlington Texas
15 Peoria Arizona
16 Cape Coral Florida
17 Garden Grove California
18 Simi Valley California
19 Corona California
20 Clearwater Florida
21 West Valley City Utah
22 Oklahoma City Oklahoma
23 Overland Park Kansas
24 Anchorage Alaska
25 Huntington Beach California
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Interesting.....
California had the most, "Most Liberal" (4) 3 north, 1 south
And California had the most "Most Conservative" (7) all south
Break up California in to Northern and Southern and the Southern part has a chance.
I’d love to see crime rates, tax rates and the economic status of each city government.
My bet is crime and taxes are high for the “liberal” cities and that they also are the most mismanaged economically.
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06-21-2009, 07:08 PM
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CdC,
Living just across the line from Overland Park I can tell you that it's not that way any more.
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06-22-2009, 01:47 PM
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I'm astounded that the "Bay area"didn't trounce all.
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06-23-2009, 02:53 PM
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I have been saying for years that So.Cal. and No.Cal should be two different states. Arizona has more in common with So.Cal. than No.Cal does. 
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06-23-2009, 05:47 PM
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Bakersfield is a conservative place for sure, more ccw permits issued in Kern county than the rest of the state combined,always votes conservative, a good place to live. I just wish it wasn't so darn hot!! 
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06-23-2009, 06:48 PM
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From what I have heard, Nor Cal would love to separate from So Cal (but can't because of population distribution), not because of political beliefs but rather because of water rights. Maybe Ron can set me right as this is just what I heard when I was visiting Nor Cal.
Wayne
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06-24-2009, 11:16 AM
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With influx of imigrants (legal and illegal), So Cal will not remain conservative.
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06-24-2009, 03:18 PM
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Gordon,
We don't have the population of down there, but our last four Sheriffs have been very gun oriented and anyone that doesn't have a record and can pass the test can get a CCP here. I would check the latest figures before making this statement.
more ccw permits issued in Kern county than the rest of the state combined,always votes conservative, a good place to live. Shasta County has a very high percentage of permit holders.
Ron 
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06-24-2009, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bomelia
With influx of imigrants (legal and illegal), So Cal will not remain conservative.
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It's not conservative now, only those areas listed are conservative.
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06-25-2009, 01:15 AM
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Ron61, I learned this in my last refresher class. The officer who spoke told us this, maybe he lied 
Here is an article from the local man in charge
County state leader by far in concealed weapons permits
Don't make any sudden movements. The guy sitting next to you may be carrying a gun, and you'd never know it.
Kern County gives out more permits to carry concealed weapons than any other county in the state, and has led the state in citizens who like to pack heat for at least the last 10 years.
Last year, 4,077 Kern County residents had the right to carry a hidden gun on them, according to the California Attorney General's office. Another Central Valley county, Fresno, came in a distant second, with 2,694 permits.
While Kern County agencies do grant a lot of permits, the number hasn't really changed over the years. Between 3,500 and 4,300 residents have held the permits going back to 1992. Only in 1999 did the number dip to about 2,900 permits.
"You have to remember that this is Kern County. It's always had more gun permits than in any other county in the state and it probably always will have more permits than any other county in the state," sheriff-elect Donny Youngblood said. "That's our culture. We believe in that."
What we believe in is electing conservative, pro-Second Amendment sheriffs, according to sheriff's Cmdr. Matt Lee, who has been in charge of reviewing the concealed weapons permit applications for the Kern County Sheriff's Department for the last couple of years. ...
But it's not like everyone who asks for one gets one, Lee said.
"There are quite a few people who are denied," Lee said. "A (permit) is a privilege; it's not a right." ...
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06-25-2009, 02:37 AM
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Gorden,
I doubt if he lied. Just your population alone down there would give you an edge on us. I help out at the permit class from time to time and maybe it was we have a higher percentage of permits for the population. I just don't remember for sure but there is another class soon and I will try to find out. If things there are like here, every person that can buy and carry a gun is doing so. That is the only businesses we have around here that are doing well and they can't keep guns and ammunition in stock.
And we do deny several as some of the people would be more dangerous to themselves with a gun than to any adversary.
Ron 
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06-25-2009, 02:40 AM
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Ron61, Same down here for Guns and Ammo, My son wanted to go shooting last week, could not find .40, .357 or .38, found some .22 and went plinking 
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If you can't afford what you want to buy, pick up a book and learn how to make it.
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06-25-2009, 02:44 AM
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Gordon,
Those calibers plus 45 and 9MM are almost impossible to find up here. I normally use the 147 grain police 9MM and I haven't been able to gt any for over 5 months now. Just as soon as they get some in, the first person there buys it all. I am afraid to go shoot now as I want to keep what ammo I have.
Ron 
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