New Camaro Launched

[jeanlee411]

The new Camaro is the exact size of the present Mustang, we have a photo overlay here at the dealership. It will have a wider stance and long wheel base. ii2.3 inch wheelbase and 189.6 inchs overall length. As for the weight it has Anti-lock brakes, front and rear crush zones, frt. and side air bags remote door locks and Stabilitrack std. and a 6speed trans . Also has a Independent rear suspension and Brembo brakes. It will out drive , out stop , out handle the 1967 Camaro .I sold alot of the original Camaro's and they rode poor , handled worse, and were not much to write home about.

[JTD]

Originally Posted by Three Peaks

The press reports I read about the new Camaro says it is only 1" wider and 2" longer than the original Camaros. I still like the look of them and can't wait until they introduce the "Z28" version. Any bets it will come with the new Corvette engine?

Hey, a guy can dream.....

Bob

The new Camaro will come in three "trim levels." LS and LT Camaros will be powered by the same direct-injected 3.6-liter V6 engine that powers the Cadillac CTS performance sedan.
Direct injection means that fuel is injected right into the cylinders rather than being squirted into air that's on its way to the cylinders. That allows for more precise control of the way in which fuel mixes with air. That, in turn, allows more power to be produced.

The V6 engine will produce a maximum of 300 horsepower. The V6 cars are estimated to get 26 mpg on the highway.

The Camaro SS will be powered by a 6.2-liter V8 engine producing up to 400 or 422 horsepower. (Buyers who opt for a manual transmission will get the more powerful engine.) All V8 Camaros are estimated to get 23 mpg on the highway.

All of the new Camaros, whether manual or automatic, will have six-speed transmissions.

[RedBarchetta]

The hood line and the way it curves around the corners needs to be improved. Looks like an afterthought:




Those tail light shapes and that @#$@^ duck tail spoiler are simply fugly:




Paint the lower side valances black to match the rear end and to make the sides look shorter and that would clean things up A LOT:








Yet I'll still end up buying one because my 16 year old is in love...

[CobraEd]

Personally, I think the whole thing looks very weird. A cross between a stealth fighter, and an Imperial Storm Troopers helmet. Not a good semblance of an original Camaro at all. And like the new retro mustang, this new Camaro is also significantly bigger in weight and size than the original Camaro.


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[Suomien]

Originally Posted by JTD

...The V6 cars are estimated to get 26 mpg on the highway.

The Camaro SS will be powered by a 6.2-liter V8 engine producing up to 400 or 422 horsepower. (Buyers who opt for a manual transmission will get the more powerful engine.) All V8 Camaros are estimated to get 23 mpg on the highway.

All of the new Camaros, whether manual or automatic, will have six-speed transmissions.

that is soooo sad. I drove a 90's Cadillac Deville from Red Lake Ontario to Sturgis South Dakota and then on to St. Louis and averaged over 30 mpg with its V8...at speeds way over where the EPA measures things. And that 4-door plushmobile was no slouch acceleration-wise either. That this new Camaro, 10 years later, with GDI and a 6-speed transmission can only manage 23 mpg with its V8, only 26 with a V6, is just sad. Sad, sad, sad.

The photo comparing the new Mustang with a 66? Everyone knows that just as with the Camaro, Ford based its new Mustang on the later 67, 68 models? The LATER, LARGER Mustangs...the ones you could order with big block 390's, 428's? NOT the little 66's that only came with little 289's. Just a bogus photo from setup to composition to participants.

[CobraEd]

My 02 Sedan DeVille and my wife's 01 Seville both have the 4.6 Northstar V8, and we both get and easy 26 - 27 on the highway. Those cars weigh 4,000 lbs. Both engines are 275 hp and move pretty nicely.

I think the new Corvette is rated at 27 hwy too


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[xlr8or]

I think its down right ugly. I've had a few of the gen 1 and 2 cars and don't like this one at all.

[Gatorac]

I like the looks but 2 tons is just too heavy. Same for the Challenger. They need a 300hp engine just to hual all that weight around. Do the HP/WT math and see if the new power levels are that impressive.

If they want to sell a bunch of them, they better get the weight down to 3300lbs and the MPG up to at least 30.

It does look sweeeeeett though.

[decooney]

With the active fuel managment system, and 400HP V8, 23-26MPG on the freeway is not terrible by any means. Some of today's 4cyl. 200HP+ Turbo cars that require premium fuel don't really do that much better when you start comparing real fuel mileage and requirements for super unleaded.

Being a former owner and restorer of 12 different 68/69/70/72 Camaros, I did not care for this prototype car much when it first came out. After seeing it this last year in person, it has started to grow on me a bit but I won't conclude judgement until actually seeing one on the lot in true form.

It's actually amazing to me this project even got off the ground, and that it will be produced by GM. What an amazing time in life to be reliving new versions of Mustangs, Chargers, Camaros. Can't wait to see them on the road.

Duane

[John Martin]

It looks like the satern sky from the back

[Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by John Martin

It looks like the satern sky from the back

Huh?? Doesn't look anything like the back of my Saturn Sky!

Check out my gallery & you'll see what I mean.

[Excaliber]

Wait, are you saying the new Camaro will out perform the '67 Camaro? Gee, where have I heard THAT argument before...

Heresy I tell you!

[PANAVIA]

If you love it or hate it--to me it doesnt matter.

What does is that they ARE MAKING THEM. I hope to see a Navy Blue Z28 with white rally stripes.

I am really glad they are making them, which means a possible black Trans Am in the future as well.

the cars of my youth reproduced. -- aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

Again, -- I am glad they are making them, we need a pony car out there to compete int he market place and get the FORD dealers to STOP RIPPING PEOPLE OFF FOR GT500s ...(cough) ----huh, there I feel better.

Of course this does not stop the GM dealers from engaging in some creative pricing tactics of their own. OR the Nissan Dealers with the GT-R car. (sigh)



--Steve

[Bill Bess]

If in real life, the quality and workmanship come through on the new Camaro it will be a winner. There are just too many Chevy lovers out there and success will come if the car measures up.
From the photos I saw there appears to be a lot of gap where things fit together and the dash gauge housings look like the cheap stuff on the originals...but you really can't judge until they're at the dealers. We can assume the Camaro will be very popular, best of all Ford and Chrysler will have to keep up their own progress to remain in the competition.

Best Regards, Bill

[Rick Parker]

The thin steering wheel of old looks a lot like the 16" in the OEM Cobra applications.

It's huge undertaking for the engineers to take a fresh idea, test the market, turn it into a concept car, sell the idea to the powers that control the corporate purse strings and then actually bring it to market. Keep in mind the safety mandates, emissions, perceived market and unknown stumbling blocks such as the current fuel situation. It will increase showroom traffic and bring exposure to more of the Chevrolet lineup. Customers have been asking about it for almost a year. The horsepower race of the 21st century is in full swing. Those that missed the 60's missed a Hell of a time...........

[decooney]

Originally Posted by Rick Parker

It's huge undertaking for the engineers to take a fresh idea, test the market, turn it into a concept car, sell the idea to the powers that control the corporate purse strings... is in full swing............

Rick,
I wonder about this sometimes, and why this has to be - I'm guessing internal red tape and politics at GM. I may be wrong, but as I recall Dodge and a few other companies produced cars from a prototype a bit quicker and with decent results. Viper, Mustang, etc... Or maybe it's just me thinking the O'Mighty GM could do more/better/faster. This car makes me wonder if they missed the boat, and hopefully for GM it will catch on. I am glad they went more after '69 styling queues, but it would not suprise me if they made a few more tweaks two years down the road to refine it a bit more.

[CobraMike]

Hello All,

All this Camaro talk is getting me down, what about the 500KR? You all are going to Chevy hell and will be staring at orange walls for the rest of time. Go blue or go away I REALLY like the photo's from my 7 month old motor trend and the transformer movie, but I suppose any car looks great with Megan Fox in it! These photo's either are not very appealing angles or it was altered in not such a good way in the quest for a production car.

Cheers
Mike

[puppster]

I'm pretty sure the IRS is right out of the Pontiac G8 (much heavier car with tons of power) The press image of the IRS looks really impressive. I would love to bolt it into an ERA kit. Jag parts are just getting to hard to find.

[decooney]

Originally Posted by puppster

I'm pretty sure the IRS is right out of the Pontiac G8 (much heavier car with tons of power) The press image of the IRS looks really impressive. I would love to bolt it into an ERA kit. Jag parts are just getting to hard to find.

Hmmm. if it looks that good, I might have an ERA cradle, Jag rear end assembly with QA1s and Watt's link included, for sale next year after a few people front-wreck the new Camaro.

[decooney]

Here is a pic I just found on edmunds, of the actual Camaro rear end assembly. Hmmmm, probably TOO WIDE. To narrow it would probably be a lot of work or possibly not worth trying.