New York Registration

[airboat1]

Up dated 12-19-16


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[airboat1]

It was October 24 2016 when I placed my first post asking about registering my 2005
E-M Cobra in New York State. Today I came home with the plates, asked my wife to come along and we went out for our first cruise in our beautiful little Cobra.
What an accomplishment and now it's behind us.

[1795]

Great to hear it! The nice weather that we are having this week could not have come at a better time for you. Although, as far as I am concerned, unless there is snow on the ground any time in a cobra is better than any other vehicle.

[Jim Kellogg]

Glad to hear that you had your first cruise in the Cobra!

If you're like I was, you will probably go out to the garage just to look at it every once in awhile... At least until the weather breaks for good and spring/summer/fall arrives

Stay safe, and enjoy your ride!
Jim Kellogg

[AdamIsAdam]

Howdy folks. I'm new here. I'm starting the research to finally get a Cobra, thus fulfilling a lifelong dream. With that being said, in reading about registering a Cobra in NY, it's more than a little daunting! So some basic questions about my USED Cobra purchase:

- Is it easier if I buy a car that's already been registered in NY, does that make the process just like any other car? Or do I need to worry if the car was originally registered properly?

- If it's a NY registered car, MUST it have that yellow NY DMV sticker? And if it does, am I golden?

- Can a NY car be registered without that yellow decal?

- What year does the car get registered as? I've read conflicting info.

- What happens if the engine is from an old car (ie, 1960's block)? I read one post saying that determine's the car's year, but other posts said the car's year is the year it's first titled in NY.

- What's the story with emissions?

- MOST IMPORTANTLY: If I buy a car from out of state, what are the do's and don't's? Are there any states that make it easier to register the car into NY (like CT, CA?)?

Thanks in advance.

Adam

PS What's the best car? (LOL) (I get it, that's like asking what's the best oil to use.)

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam

Howdy folks. I'm new here. I'm starting the research to finally get a Cobra, thus fulfilling a lifelong dream. With that being said, in reading about registering a Cobra in NY, it's more than a little daunting! So some basic questions about my USED Cobra purchase:

- Is it easier if I buy a car that's already been registered in NY, does that make the process just like any other car? Or do I need to worry if the car was originally registered properly?

- If it's a NY registered car, MUST it have that yellow NY DMV sticker? And if it does, am I golden?

- Can a NY car be registered without that yellow decal?

- What year does the car get registered as? I've read conflicting info.

- What happens if the engine is from an old car (ie, 1960's block)? I read one post saying that determine's the car's year, but other posts said the car's year is the year it's first titled in NY.

- What's the story with emissions?

- MOST IMPORTANTLY: If I buy a car from out of state, what are the do's and don't's? Are there any states that make it easier to register the car into NY (like CT, CA?)?

Thanks in advance.

Adam

PS What's the best car? (LOL) (I get it, that's like asking what's the best oil to use.)

Generally a car previously registered in another state as a 1965 will carryover. I have 2 used Backdrafts titled as 1965s in stock hint hint...

[FredG]

Adam.

I live in NJ, which is another pain in the ass state, so I can share this. I purchased a previously owned 2014 Backdraft in NJ that was Titled correctly when brought here from Florida as a Replica so everything was a snap and I am exempt from inspection. I have heard nightmare stories about buying a car from another State and bringing them into NY & NJ. Do it wrong and you will be subject to inspection including emissions. If you purchase a car from a reputable dealer like VMS in Connecticut, they will take care of all of it for you including the DMV inspection in your home state. Good luck.

PS As far as the best car, that question itself will cause a ruckus and has. I chose Backdraft because it fit my budget and has a good reputation. If you are for a stickler for originality, that will cost you more and you will look at Superformance and the continuation cars.

Fred

[riggsjr]

Originally Posted by FredG

Adam.

I live in NJ, which is another pain in the ass state, so I can share this. I purchased a previously owned 2014 Backdraft in NJ that was Titled correctly when brought here from Florida as a Replica so everything was a snap and I am exempt from inspection. I have heard nightmare stories about buying a car from another State and bringing them into NY & NJ. Do it wrong and you will be subject to inspection including emissions. If you purchase a car from a reputable dealer like VMS in Connecticut, they will take care of all of it for you including the DMV inspection in your home state. Good luck.

PS As far as the best car, that question itself will cause a ruckus and has. I chose Backdraft because it fit my budget and has a good reputation. If you are for a stickler for originality, that will cost you more and you will look at Superformance and the continuation cars.

Fred

Well total NEWBIE here as this is my 1st post.Need to start somewhere.I live in NJ also.So my question Fred if I buy a Backdraft from an owner and not a dealer out of state what is the correct way to registrar the car. The car is a 2017.I would like to have it exempt from inspection also.This state is a pain in the ass when it comes to this stuff.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by riggsjr

Well total NEWBIE here as this is my 1st post.Need to start somewhere.I live in NJ also.So my question Fred if I buy a Backdraft from an owner and not a dealer out of state what is the correct way to registrar the car. The car is a 2017.I would like to have it exempt from inspection also.This state is a pain in the ass when it comes to this stuff.

It will have to be registered previously as a 1965. If it is then the process is much easier. Just had a customer of ours go through it.

[AdamIsAdam]

Fred,
Thank you for the reply. You are right, I need to look and learn a lot. I see that.

I'm ok doing work on the cars. In fact, I'm going to sell my 1999 911 to make room for the Cobra because I don't like how hard it is to work on that car without a true lift; plus, what the hell is that thing in the back, an engine?! LOL Seriously, I am willing to learn (and am learning) about the cars, and am really enjoying driving it (2900 lbs and 300 hp in a tiny car is fun), but it's not like working on a V8 sports/muscle car.

I really want a Cobra that is not a death trap (because of being designed and/or built poorly, not because it's a powerful, light car - that's a given). It seems that the Superformance and a well (perhaps professionally) built Factory 5 might be the best handling, most modern driving car out there.

Safety, good handling car.

[1795]

Adam,

I race a Superformance and can attest to their strength and performance. Have never had a problem with something failing even when pushed hard on the track. Good luck with your search. As previously stated, yes you will have to wrench things occasionally. It might be beneficial to see what cobras are close by to you so that if you have to work on something ou may have someone familiar with the cars to help or guide you.

Jim

[AdamIsAdam]

Thanks for the info!

Hey, do you need wipers and turn signals to pass in NY? Or do hand signals work?

I just looked at a very nice Factory 5 car. I also looked at a Backdraft. I do not like the seating position in the Backdraft car: too much angle to the left and that tranny tunnel is HUGE. Plus, the seat had me in a fixed recline position so far back that I was going to fall asleep ;-)

The F5 was very, very nice. It was actually built by the factory team at an event, so it's all brand new parts and built by a professional. Paint is 9.9/10. Engine is a Blueprint 306 crate motor with carb, TKO600 5 spd and a Moser 8.8. Discs all around. Every single part is brand new. Car is basically brand new. Looks unused. Has 1,400 miles somehow, but looks like 14 miles to be honest.

I'm trying to determine a fair price. Wanna play What's It Worth, anyone?

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam

Thanks for the info!

Hey, do you need wipers and turn signals to pass in NY? Or do hand signals work?

I just looked at a very nice Factory 5 car. I also looked at a Backdraft. I do not like the seating position in the Backdraft car: too much angle to the left and that tranny tunnel is HUGE. Plus, the seat had me in a fixed recline position so far back that I was going to fall asleep ;-)

The F5 was very, very nice. It was actually built by the factory team at an event, so it's all brand new parts and built by a professional. Paint is 9.9/10. Engine is a Blueprint 306 crate motor with carb, TKO600 5 spd and a Moser 8.8. Discs all around. Every single part is brand new. Car is basically brand new. Looks unused. Has 1,400 miles somehow, but looks like 14 miles to be honest.

I'm trying to determine a fair price. Wanna play What's It Worth, anyone?

You need wipers, turn signals, and defroster. It's all outlined on in the application packet you must request from NY DMV.

The Backdraft you looked at, when was it built? A lot has changed in 6 years and even more in 6 months. Here so you don't have to search: Whats new in the RT4?

I will add the seating position has improved with the changes. I thought you were asking about handling at some point? The tunnel on the BDR is wider because the engine sits further back for balance. With the 427 Windsor setup nearly 50/50 front to rear. I like IRS myself.

[AdamIsAdam]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

You need wipers, turn signals, and defroster. It's all outlined on in the application packet you must request from NY DMV.

The Backdraft you looked at, when was it built? A lot has changed in 6 years and even more in 6 months. Here so you don't have to search: Whats new in the RT4?

I will add the seating position has improved with the changes. I thought you were asking about handling at some point? The tunnel on the BDR is wider because the engine sits further back for balance. With the 427 Windsor setup nearly 50/50 front to rear. I like IRS myself.

They claim the back draft is new, 1100 miles. VIN AE9BMAAH7H1MT1013. A blackout edition.

I'm digging the Factory Five for the right price. I will drive it first. The Backdraft is too pricey for me anyway.

[AdamIsAdam]

Is the process very different/easier for used cars previously registered in another state vs a new one? Do used cars not require jumping through hoops (in NY) like engine/tranny receipts?

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam

Is the process very different/easier for used cars previously registered in another state vs a new one? Do used cars not require jumping through hoops (in NY) like engine/tranny receipts?

Usually yes, the reg/title transfer HOWEVER there are exceptions. A car from Montana will get a going over due to the tax evasion schemes used with Montana titles. Also sometimes NY will not accept the issuing states VIN; we have seen this with a car from Michigan.

Understand the states real concern is sales tax and they don't want to let any possible funds slip away. A suspiciously low sales receipt amount will likely trigger further review. And some cars registered as "1965 Ford" with a 60's Ford VIN will probably get the evil eye as well.

[AdamIsAdam]

Speaking of Montana, would that help me easily title and register the car? I'm not trying to avoid sales tax, just want to get it titled!

I'm looking at a newly built car that doesn't have wipers or heat. I'd like to get it titled in NY without them if possible. I'm not sure what state it was titled in, if it was even titled ever. That info is pending

[Mark IV]

Easy title and reg in Montana (and some other states as well), Yes....just don't plan on keeping/driving it in New York.

NY requires wipers and a defroster although I have never seen a car checked for defrosters. Wipers, well pretty easy to see they are not there.

If it not titled expect to meet the NY regulations. And even if you get it registered the lack of wipers will red flag the normal NYS annual safety inspection.

Do you want to roll the dice on a multiple tens of thousands of dollars purchase to find out you can't drive it?

[FredG]

riggsjr.

My car is titled and registered as a 65 replica and I have a letter from DMV stating it is exempt from inspection.

[riggsjr]

Originally Posted by FredG

riggsjr.

My car is titled and registered as a 65 replica and I have a letter from DMV stating it is exempt from inspection.

Sent you a PM.