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06-07-2007, 02:04 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Venom 351W Mild Cam 600cm Holley MSD T-5
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Has the gov signed the bill?
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06-07-2007, 04:46 PM
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Joeg:
I had previously asked the Executive Branch to define the next steps and the timing, no response. The Secretary of State's office is also involved, 1400 will become a Public Act with a new number. There seems to be different explanations as to the exact number of days the Governor has to sign after passage by the CGA, not sign by veto, allow to become law with no action, etc., etc.,
For comparison purposes, the schedule for the 2006 DMV Bill:
6/2/2006 Signed by the Governor
5/22/2006 Transmitted to the Secretary of State
5/15/2006 (LCO) Public Act 06-130
5/2/2006 In Concurrence
The progress of the 2007 Bill 1400 can be monitored by accessing the CGA tracking site, Bill History
http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillsta...ll_num=SB01400
Section 35 of DMV Bill 1400 having the Composite Emissions Exemption has an effective date of 7-1-2007
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06-12-2007, 09:44 AM
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conn emissions legislation
Does anyone know if the rule change exempting composite cars which was attached to some legislation made it through at the last minute. as of 6/12 the emissions guys in Cheshire were still searching to find out.
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06-12-2007, 10:04 AM
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Don.....check the CGA tracking site for 1400:
http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillsta...ll_num=SB01400
Bill has not yet made it, according to the Bill History, to the Secretary of State to be converted to a Public Act nor given to the Govenor.
Guess on my part, until these steps are completed, there probably would not be any communication to DMV/Emissions to make changes . Section 35 having the Composite Emissions Exemption is still showing a CGA approved effective date of 7-1
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06-14-2007, 10:03 AM
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Update of 6-14, Senate Bill 1400 has been designated by the Secretary of State as Public Act 07-167
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06-14-2007, 05:24 PM
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So is it law? Can i skip my emission test due by7/3
joeg
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06-14-2007, 06:05 PM
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Kudos to all those who made this happen!
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06-15-2007, 03:15 AM
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Joeg........the CGA tracking site has not indicated the Governor has signed the Public Act. I checked with the Transportation Committee staff a few days ago and they, as Staff personnel , were not personally aware of any discussions or reasons why the Governor would not sign. However, until signed, another step to complete.
When the Governor does sign, I will check with the DMV Emissions Co-ordinator regarding the implementation/effective date of 7-1, and then post the message.
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06-26-2007, 07:29 AM
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Is it soup yet?
Hey Don,
Any word if it's been signed yet?
I couldn't find anything on ct web sites,
Jerry
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06-26-2007, 07:52 AM
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Jerry:
As of this AM, Bill 1400 has not been signed by the Governor. The last signing update for other Bills was on Wednesday June 20th. With the CT budget discussions finished, might allow time for the Bill signing process on 1400 and other Bills.
Not sure on the timing of the process after the General Assembly is out of session. One version is that if the Governor does not take any action in 15 days from the date declared as a Public Act, June 15th, the Bill is approved w/o a signature. If someone definetly knows the procedure, correct or agree ?
Will post when/if there is a signing
Don
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06-26-2007, 09:06 AM
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The Answer?
Don,
I did some further searching, and this is what I found, on http://www.cga.ct.gov/hco/eob.htm
"Action by the Governor
If the Governor receives the bill while the legislature is in session, he has five calendar days, exclusive of Sundays and holidays, in which to sign it or return it to the house in which it originated with a statement of his objections. In the latter case, the bill may be reconsidered and, if passed by at least two-thirds of the members of each house of the General Assembly, it becomes law. If the Governor does not sign or veto the bill within five calendar days after the same has been presented to him, Sundays and holidays excepted, it automatically becomes law unless the General Assembly has adjourned the regular or special session. If the regular or special session has adjourned, the bill becomes law unless the Governor, within fifteen calendar days after it has been presented to him, transmits it to the Secretary of the State with his objections."
So, unless Gov. Rell has responded to the Secretary of State with objections, it would appear to be law no later than the July 1st enactment date!
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06-27-2007, 10:58 AM
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HIP HIP HOORAY & THANKS TO ALL.......
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06-27-2007, 11:17 AM
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My Thanks to All
As Don has already posted, I will be brief. Perseverance and making contact with the right people made the difference. Claire Janowski took on this bill knowing that many would be against it. She and a DMV person were clever in incorporating our modified 5790 in the yearly DMV bill. That alone was the most important thing done to insure bill passage. There were others involved who shall remain nameless, as requested, and I have personally thanked them.
I would also like to thank Don for making me believe we could do it. His positive attitude throughout was important to me.
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06-27-2007, 04:18 PM
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And a big thanks to this forum, where details were communicated among the many enthusiasts who helped make it happen!
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06-27-2007, 06:33 PM
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Thanks alot,I didn't think it could be done.
This is amazing seeing how very little gets done in the Ct. govt. You guys are the best ,thanks again. That takes off a lot of worries for Cobra and other kit car owners and future owners.
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06-28-2007, 05:28 AM
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Finally
Hi Everybody: First , as an owner of an ERA and enthusiast of the hobby, thanks to all that were involved and helped this law pass. Man, the wheels of the lawmakers turn in reverse sometimes, but, in spite of themselves, somehow come out on the right side of the track. I was personally involved in the public testimony in Hartford, and what an honor to be a part of. If it were not for this forum, and its gatekeepers, would I even have known about this, let alone been able to participate. So HALLELUYA (or however the he.. you spell it)!!! Dbuggs427
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06-28-2007, 09:32 AM
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Great news!! Thanks to all the instigators  and all the letter writers. I have a Pond block sitting in my basement...I was planning on putting a wimp cam in it to try to sneak by emissions...Not now!! It's getting the bad-boy cam!!
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06-28-2007, 10:09 AM
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Don,
As you seem to understand this bill and the bills passage could you write a "Readers Digest" version explaining, in lay terms, what the bill actually means to a current or future owner of a composite (Cobra) in CT? Can a Cobra now be registered as a '65? Can it wear vintage/early American plates? Usage limitations. Property tax valuations and so on. Thanks in advance.
RB
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06-28-2007, 10:32 AM
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I think it means your 2007 Composit does not have to pass an emissions test. I don't think it means you're getting antique plates.
Bob
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06-28-2007, 12:02 PM
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RB:
I will make an attempt, but this topic is new to me over the past few months and continues to be a learning experience. I invite others to offer comments and/or corrections
The brief Technical version:
Sec. 35. Subsection (c) of section 14-164c of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective July 1, 2007):
provision for a periodic inspection of air pollution control equipment and compliance with or waiver of exhaust emission standards or compliance with or waiver of on-board diagnostic standards or other standards defined by the Commissioner of Environment
Such regulations shall apply to all motor vehicles registered or which will be registered in this state except:
(12) vehicles that have met the inspection requirements of section 14-103a and are registered by the commissioner as composite vehicles.
The Governor signed Public Act No 07-167 containing Section 35 on June 25, 2007, Composites added to the Emission Testing Exemption effective as of 7-1-2007.
The Reader's Digest version:
Previously there were eleven ( 11 ) categories of vehicles that were exempt from emissions testing. SB 1400 aka Public Act 07-167 Section 35 added to the law/regulation stated above , a 12th category for emission exemptions which applies to all currently registered Composites and future Composite registrations., effective July 1, 2007. Adding the make designation of Composites is the significant change. When reviewing the DMV report of make by year, Composites are listed just like any other mass production make, such as Ford, Honda, Dodge, etc., etc
Nothing else changes as far as the safety inspection at Wethersfield, model year will continue to be the year first registered in CT and make is a Composite, same Tax Assessment method to establish value, designation as a kit car/replica for insurance purposes ( not all Agents are familiar with the term Composites ), maximum dB for the side pipes, registration fees are the same , standard issue plates ( vanity plates can be ordered ) etc., etc.,
Composites and other vehicles which have a model year of 20 years ago were already exempt from emissions, examples being my 1969 AMX and 1979 pick-up. Composites can also be street rods, not just kit cars
Other:
What you may be relating to is the model SEMA legislation, used as is or modified by other states, which was not being favorably received. Refer back to RENEW1's recent posting when the emission exemption for Composites was added to the DMV Bill.
I made an inquiry to the DMV Emissions Co-ordinator as to what action, if any, those that have received an emission test date reminder for July or later need to take, awaiting a reply which I will post
Just as an aside, there is a vast amount of information available on the Executive Branch and General Assembly web sites. Fortunetly, the DMV, Governor's staff and General Assembly staff were extremely helpful in identifing specific links.
Hope this helps, if not, let me know
Don
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