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01-12-2007, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RENEW1
Got a surprise for everyone. Claire Janokowski, a Vernon House Rep, has promised me she will submit a bill to the legislature using the SEMA language to define our cars and exempt them from emissions. It must be in by noon tomorrow, I hope. She asked for a copy sent to her at the state house and one at home. I hope someone can tune a carb but I wouldn't bet on it for everyone. Just for info all EFI systems try to control at A/F ratio about 14.7:1
which is equivelent to very low CO. I tried to attach a chart as CO and A/F ratio but file is too big. I have asked Peter at ERA if he would like to contact Claire so we'll see what happens. If this bill makes it I hope everyone including other replica cars and Hot Rods will support it. We are outnumbered and it will most likely take a strong effort.
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RENEW1,
Get us her email, tele #, snail mail add so we can all get on board to support her and her efforts.
Remember all, this is for all of us.........
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01-12-2007, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RENEW1
Got a surprise for everyone. Claire Janokowski, a Vernon House Rep, has promised me she will submit a bill to the legislature using the SEMA language to define our cars and exempt them from emissions. It must be in by noon tomorrow, I hope. She asked for a copy sent to her at the state house and one at home. I hope someone can tune a carb but I wouldn't bet on it for everyone. Just for info all EFI systems try to control at A/F ratio about 14.7:1
which is equivelent to very low CO. I tried to attach a chart as CO and A/F ratio but file is too big. I have asked Peter at ERA if he would like to contact Claire so we'll see what happens. If this bill makes it I hope everyone including other replica cars and Hot Rods will support it. We are outnumbered and it will most likely take a strong effort.
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RENEW1,
Get us her email, tele #, snail mail add so we can all get on board to support her and her efforts.
Remember all, this is for all of us.........
Don.
Is there any way to contact the 300 or so other composite owners to stir them up.??
IMHO:Passing inspection & registration is nothing if emmissions pushes us off the road....
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01-12-2007, 12:52 PM
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It is now 2:43PM and I'm still supplying information for the bill. Claire now has an extension until 3:00PM to submit the bill. Unfortuanately my wife, who has COPD, fell ill and I left work yesterday and missed Claire's request for more information. By email today she got hold of me and asked for the information by 3:00PM. I hope it makes it. I had asked Peter at ERA to contact her yesterday but apparently he did not. Her address/email is as follows:
Claire Janowski
Legislative Office Building, Room 1003
Hartford,Ct 06106-1991
Phone: 860-240-8585
email: Claire.Janowski@cga.ct.gov
Home: 263 Hany Lane
Vernon, Ct. 06066
Phone: 860-872-7196
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01-11-2007, 06:42 PM
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We all need to know how to help support this so it can go through.Does anybody know what to do?
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01-11-2007, 07:02 PM
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If I remember correctly, Claire attempted to assist some time ago, years ( ? ) and no one showed at the Committe hearing, assigned to the Bill, to testify in support nor had submitted any written testimony.
Maybe Claire can help in letting us know what to do in support and how will the notification of time, date and place be handled if the Bill is assigned to a Committe for public testimony.
I would offer that with knowing there are only approx 300 Composites in the state, driven approx 1,000 to 2,000 miles a year, the exemption on emissions would be put in perspective for those in the General Assembly that do not have an awareness or knowledge of our sport/hobby and the consequences we face with the direction be taking by the DEP.
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01-13-2007, 06:32 PM
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I contacted Claire via e-mail with my reasoning for a Bill on the emissions exemption for Composites and also requested to be notified whether the Bill was filed, or not.
Looks like we will have to wait until next week to see if the Bill is logged into the Record Book, or someone receives another reply from Claire.
I have contacted the DMV Business Services Unit explaining the reason and asking for the N & A of the CT Composite owners. This is definetly a long shot, might be a privacy issue in releasing the information.
I will wait to contact Ron ( Moderator ) regarding a possible PM to all registered in CT on CC until we know for sure the status of the Bill.
The technical subject of tuning specifically for meeting emissions is new to me, was not aware of the tuning tools, see Posting 119 , or the additives to help reduce the HCs.
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01-13-2007, 06:49 PM
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I think I have the history of Composite emission standards correct:
2000: HC 484, CO 5.09
2005: HC 800, CO 4.00
2006: HC 220, CO 1.20
2007: HC 220, CO 1.20
All those with a model year of 2005 or earlier have the higher standard, at this time. The 2000 standard has been removed for everyone. But look at the change from 2000, when I first registered, compared to 2007. As time goes on , will the current standards also be subject to further changes.
While we understand, it setting the lower emission standard, the DEP did not take into consideration the engine technology for emissions has not changed from 2000 to 2007, unless FI is used with a mild or stock cam, instead of a carb and a semi-radical or radical cam. I was not aware of the 2005 standard until I got a FAIL on the first test with the Agbar system, managed to pass the re-test. 
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01-11-2007, 07:33 PM
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I will contact our regional SEMA rep tomorrow on this.
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01-12-2007, 01:25 PM
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I sent her an email...every little bit helps (I hope).
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01-12-2007, 01:30 PM
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Just sent one also.......
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01-12-2007, 01:50 PM
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Me to send one also....
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01-12-2007, 02:34 PM
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The bill was submitted and we will have to see if it gets accepted. I understand it may be fine tuned by the legislative office so we'll have to wait and see. I'll let all know the bill number if granted. At this point I'm not sure what happens next. I'm not to good at this kind of stuff and hope others who are better at this than me would get involved. I think part of the problem might be convincing your local house or Senate rep to support this bill.
If we have a bill number I think all of us should get on the internet and try to contact all the clubs in Ct to help us. If there is a hearing, it is important for a face to face hearing with the legislature.
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01-12-2007, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RENEW1
The bill was submitted and we will have to see if it gets accepted. I understand it may be fine tuned by the legislative office so we'll have to wait and see. I'll let all know the bill number if granted. At this point I'm not sure what happens next. I'm not to good at this kind of stuff and hope others who are better at this than me would get involved. I think part of the problem might be convincing your local house or Senate rep to support this bill.
If we have a bill number I think all of us should get on the Internet and try to contact all the clubs in Ct to help us. If there is a hearing, it is important for a face to face hearing with the legislature.
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Its a Start. Now we must all maintain support and vigilance....
I have contacted and posted to three car sites already
RENEW1,
Thanks for what youv'e done so far........
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01-12-2007, 02:40 PM
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Well that's great news. Keep us posted and thanks for your effort. Let me know if there is anything I can help with.
Glenn.
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01-12-2007, 03:35 PM
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Steve:
RE: Don.
Is there any way to contact the 300 or so other composite owners to stir them up.??
The DMV hard copy report I was given access to indicated year/type of registration and Make, such as Composite. At the time, I indicated to the contact at DMV Business Services I did not have a need for the N & A, which expedited my access to the data. Reason being, was only interested in the number of Composites registered by year. Since the report already existed ( very important ) in a format that had the info I wanted, the $0.25 FOI charge per page was waived. The report was about 6 to 8 inches high of computer paper, forgot the exact page count
That said, I will contact the DMV Business Services Unit, explain the need/reason for the N & A for Composites and determine if the information can be made available. At the time, it was mentioned the DMV did not have any software. report generators, to produce reports on a selective basis.
Just as a FYI, the DMV individual drove to Wethersfield from an office in the southern part of the state with the report to meet me, and then I used the cafeteria to view the report.......extremely helpful individual.
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01-12-2007, 03:56 PM
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The Thread from 2005 on the same subject for a Bill submitted by Claire Janowski
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...laire+Janowski
RENEW1: If the Bill does get a number, could you also ask Claire for the web site link to the General Assembly calender and the Comittee the Bill is assigned to ? If someone finds or knows the link, please post on this Thread.
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01-12-2007, 05:00 PM
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The Thread from 2005 on the same subject for a Bill submitted by Claire Janowski
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...laire+Janowski
RENEW1: If the Bill does get a number, could you also ask Claire for the web site link to the General Assembly calender and the Comittee the Bill is assigned to ? If someone finds or knows the link, please post on this Thread.
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Don,
What happened to the bill this is all I find:
http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillsta...8&SUBMIT1.y=12
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01-12-2007, 05:06 PM
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Seems it has been submitted for debate/argument. The date for a public hearing is listed. Click on the tab for the text.
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01-12-2007, 05:07 PM
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Sorry...I'm two years behind. I hope this is resubmitted for argument.
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