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Old 03-01-2010, 01:09 AM
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I am the buyer of the CSX at the low point of western civilization. 41.9K, 1.8K to ship it cross country.. so I am in for 44. (roughly).

I have seen the same car for sale @ 54K -

CSX: There are lots of things that are great on the car, and lots of things that are not. ---but then again the original cobras were kinda peach-cobbler in places.
when I am done with my CSX it will work well and drive well. It may not be the fastest, or have the most power, but everything will work well.

As for finding out the wholesale cost - this information could be misused and screw the whole thing up.

Example; the CSX car has a whole page of options that add up into the (possibly) thousands.

I do know that my dealer lost money on my car. (on my CSX) it was sold at his advertised price, so i cant feel to bad about it.

If you want Cobras to exist, you have to buy them and service them with businesses that are a for-profit enterprise.

WARNING: If you grind a business too far on its cost basis to provide you a custom product, they are probably not going to be there very long.

as far as CSX cars , - the main thing I like about the CSX (glass) is I can lean on the fenders (hehehehe)

Right now , I am removing the HST provided wiring ( with the bilingual scotch-tape tags) and replacing it with the same Kwik-Wire harness that they use on the KMP cars , with a few mods.

I think we need an *electrical* thread on this board. --that way blas and i can focus our energy.

Steve
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:12 AM
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I am the buyer of the CSX at the low point of western civilization. 41.9K, 1.8K to ship it cross country.. so I am in for 44. (roughly).

I have seen the same car for sale @ 54K -

CSX: There are lots of things that are great on the car, and lots of things that are not. ---but then again the original cobras were kinda peach-cobbler in places.
when I am done with my CSX it will work well and drive well. It may not be the fastest, or have the most power, but everything will work well.

As for finding out the wholesale cost - this information could be misused and screw the whole thing up.

Example; the CSX car has a whole page of options that add up into the (possibly) thousands.

I do know that my dealer lost money on my car. (on my CSX) it was sold at his advertised price, so i cant feel to bad about it.

If you want Cobras to exist, you have to buy them and service them with businesses that are a for-profit enterprise.

WARNING: If you grind a business too far on its cost basis to provide you a custom product, they are probably not going to be there very long.

as far as CSX cars , - the main thing I like about the CSX (glass) is I can lean on the fenders (hehehehe)

Right now , I am removing the HST provided wiring ( with the bilingual scotch-tape tags) and replacing it with the same Kwik-Wire harness that they use on the KMP cars , with a few mods.

I think we need an *electrical* thread on this board. --that way blas and i can focus our energy.

Steve
Steve,

Once you finish the car, it would be great to see a full side by side comparison of the CSX vs. your Superformance
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Once you finish the car, it would be great to see a full side by side comparison of the CSX vs. your Superformance
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Again, my intent regarding the initial query, was not directed at driving any Shelby dealer into an adverse business position. It is simply trying to remove emotions from a purchase decision. A point was made in one of the responses that the purchase of a CSX or any Cobra replica (meaning a non-CSX 2000 or 3000 series chassis) for that matter is really about emotion. Hey, no fundamental argument, but at some point, and perhaps it is only me struggling with this, one has to consider the "V' word; aka, value.

Some of the info of most interest learned during the discussion involved the $12k +/- install kit that is not part of the base price (and to be honest, never saw this on the pricing option lists provided by multiple Shelby dealers). So, from a very non-emotional perspective, this takes a $51k roller and quickly turns it into a $63k roller. So, given you have a $63k roller, as say compared to an $85k Ferrari 360 Modena...for me, I default to the value bit mentioned above. But again, that just might be my problem.

Simply no right/wrong to any of this decision process and as mentioned earlier, given the times, seems a bit frivolous.

Bob
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for all responses provided.

Again, my intent regarding the initial query, was not directed at driving any Shelby dealer into an adverse business position. It is simply trying to remove emotions from a purchase decision. A point was made in one of the responses that the purchase of a CSX or any Cobra replica (meaning a non-CSX 2000 or 3000 series chassis) for that matter is really about emotion. Hey, no fundamental argument, but at some point, and perhaps it is only me struggling with this, one has to consider the "V' word; aka, value.

Some of the info of most interest learned during the discussion involved the $12k +/- install kit that is not part of the base price (and to be honest, never saw this on the pricing option lists provided by multiple Shelby dealers). So, from a very non-emotional perspective, this takes a $51k roller and quickly turns it into a $63k roller. So, given you have a $63k roller, as say compared to an $85k Ferrari 360 Modena...for me, I default to the value bit mentioned above. But again, that just might be my problem.

Simply no right/wrong to any of this decision process and as mentioned earlier, given the times, seems a bit frivolous.

Bob
Bob, I'm sure you know this already, but it should be pointed out that accumulating any sort of mileage on one's Ferrari will significantly depreciate the resale price of it. Also, you must factor in the maintenance costs of both cars as well. I love Ferraris, but the initial purchase price doesn't stop me from buying one.
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Bob, if you'd like to discuss the virtues and value of owning a Cobra vs a Ferrari, PM me, I've owned both.
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Right now , I am removing the HST provided wiring ( with the bilingual scotch-tape tags) and replacing it with the same Kwik-Wire harness that they use on the KMP cars, with a few mods. Steve
On the CSX, did you find any battery cables labeled "Sharroll Celby."
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