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07-23-2012, 09:27 PM
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Having competed in concourses with a Porsche in the 80's and early 90's, I don't see the issue here. Unlike a car show, a concourse is a competition on how close to original an original is. A replica would not be able to be competitive as it was never produced by the original factory, whatever make that would be. Points are deducted for repaint, new upholstery, missing tools ( I used to get dinged on that one) etc. So a replica would have no chance and the judges wouldn't be interested in judging it anyway.
Cars put for display only weren't judged, so they weren't in the same area as cars that were.
I think that's how it should be.
Larry
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07-24-2012, 05:54 AM
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So a replica would have no chance and the judges wouldn't be interested in judging it anyway.
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Of course. On the other hand, Ned would probably award a big fat trophy to any replica Cobra that could fool him in to thinking it's real. But he's a judge; a replica doesn't matter to him, nor should it. Instead, look at it from the gallery's perspective. Here, suppose I have three paintings on my wall: A Gaugin, a Renoir, and a van Gogh. And after you have been admiring them for a good ten minutes or so I tell you "Only one of them is real, the other two are fakes." Have I just: 1) Increased your viewing pleasure; 2) Diminished it; or 3) Made no change. Now don't just knee-jerk answer; think it through first. 
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07-24-2012, 08:21 AM
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Of course. On the other hand, Ned would probably award a big fat trophy to any replica Cobra that could fool him in to thinking it's real. But he's a judge; a replica doesn't matter to him, nor should it. Instead, look at it from the gallery's perspective. Here, suppose I have three paintings on my wall: A Gaugin, a Renoir, and a van Gogh. And after you have been admiring them for a good ten minutes or so I tell you "Only one of them is real, the other two are fakes." Have I just: 1) Increased your viewing pleasure; 2) Diminished it; or 3) Made no change. Now don't just knee-jerk answer; think it through first. 
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Patrick, I think it would add to my viewing pleasure. That said, the replica wouldn't score points of course.
The gallery probably would like to see all of the paintings but where they are placed on the wall is your choice being that you are running the exhibit.
Now if I could build a replica Cobra that would fool Ned, then I would be ...  !!!
Larry
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07-24-2012, 08:23 AM
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Here, suppose I have three paintings on my wall: A Gaugin, a Renoir, and a van Gogh. And after you have been admiring them for a good ten minutes or so I tell you "Only one of them is real, the other two are fakes." Have I just: 1) Increased your viewing pleasure; 2) Diminished it; or 3) Made no change. Now don't just knee-jerk answer; think it through first. 
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4) None of the above, because you would never find me in a museum and/or art gallery. That's an activity for the well-heeled rich folk like you. 
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07-24-2012, 09:12 AM
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4) None of the above, because you would never find me in a museum and/or art gallery. That's an activity for the well-heeled rich folk like you. 
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Rich... If I had five dollars, I'd sit up nights watching it!
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07-24-2012, 08:58 AM
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Having competed in concourses with a Porsche in the 80's and early 90's, I don't see the issue here. Unlike a car show, a concourse is a competition on how close to original an original is.
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You go to mall common area competitions?
" A concourse is a place where pathways or roads meet, such as in a hotel, a convention center, a railway station, an airport terminal, a hall, or other space."
Concours:
"A Concours d'Elegance (from French meaning a competition of elegance, lit. "concourse of elegance", referring to the gathering of prestigious cars) dates back to 17th Century French aristocracy, who paraded horse-drawn carriages in the parks of Paris during Summer weekends and holidays.[1] Over time, carriages became horseless and the gatherings became a competition among automobile owners to be judged on the appearance of their automobiles. These commonly are held at automobile shows or after racing competitions. Notable Concours d'Elegances include Concorso d'Eleganza Villa d'Este, Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance, Meadow Brook Concours d'Elegance, Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance, Ault Park Concours d'Elegance (Cincinnati), Keeneland Concours d'Elegance, and Louis Vuitton Classic in midtown Manhattan."
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