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12-28-2008, 08:43 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cinnaminson,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Fibercraft Bodies 427 S/C, 351W disguised as a 427.
Posts: 391
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Leaking Thermostat Housing
There have been several mentions in the past about leaking occurring when using the small block thermostat housing that uses the rubber O ring seal. Just wondering if any of the members have been able to solve the problem WITHOUT throwing the O-ring sealed housing in the trash. In theory this style of housing should work well especially with ease of removal since there is no stuck gasket to fool around with.
I have closely examined the rubber O ring seals that come with these housings and have noticed a potential defect in some of them where the two O rings are fused together. I wonder if that is the source of the problem and if anyone else has experienced the same thought and devised a correction. Please don't tell me to trash the housing and get one with a gasket. I'm looking for any legitimate fixes, thanks.
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12-29-2008, 05:15 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Fairfield, NJ, USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A & C, 351W, Tremec 3550. Exiled Member: Club Cranky
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I use a silicone grease prior to tightening. Be careful and tighten the housing evenly. Any slight 'cocking' of the housing can cause leakage.
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12-29-2008, 05:37 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: pottstown,
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Cobra Make, Engine: era 289 FIA #2112
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I use RTV on the o-ring where it mates to the surface of the intake manifold. I have this type of housing on two different vehicles now with no leaks. I have removed one of them once to change the thermostat and had no problem with removal or afterwards, just be sure to clean of the gasket material. I do not put a lot on, a thin layer seems to work.
hope this helps
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12-29-2008, 10:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marcalan
I use RTV on the o-ring where it mates to the surface of the intake manifold. I do not put a lot on, a thin layer seems to work.
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Same here. Hasn't leaked yet.
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12-29-2008, 01:05 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Goshen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Gary Edwards Racing 460
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Mine was leaking with the traditional gaskets. I switched to the O-ring and have had no problems since.
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12-29-2008, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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12-29-2008, 02:58 PM
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Location: Savannah,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique, 351W
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I used a conventional gasket arrangement with a factory look alike overflow tank and it always leaked. About a year or so ago, I bought a FinishLine Overflow tank that used o rings instead of conventional gasket. It also leaked. In looking closer, I noticed the chrome thermostat housing was slightly warped a bit. You could place it on a flat surface and clearly see where you could slide a piece of paper under the center section, while the ends were firmly touching the table top. I planed down the surface till it was flat, reinstalled it on the engine and it hasn't leaked since........till now. I checked the two housing bolts and they were each about 1/4 to 1/2 turn loose. I tighten the bolts, drove the car once, parked it and it appears to be dry after about a week sitting up. Does anyone know the torque rating for the two thermostat housing bolts?
Walter
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12-29-2008, 04:23 PM
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Location: Colorado Springs,
CO
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft, supercharged Coyote
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I use the chrome piece with an O-ring that so many have had problems with. It looks good, so I think I'll keep it.
Remove the o-ring. Get a sheet of 120 grit sandpaper and place on a sheet of glass. Rub the gasket surface on sandpaper. That will produce a flat surface that has enough texture to grab ahold of a gasket. Then I use a standard off the shelf gasket, with a slight smear of silicone.
Like anything, torque the bolts evenly and to the proper torque reading.
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12-29-2008, 06:05 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Fibercraft Bodies 427 S/C, 351W disguised as a 427.
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Walter, the water outlet bolts are 5/16x18 so they can be safely torqued to around 15 lb/ft. If using an aluminum intake manifold I recommend a little anti-seize cpd. on the threads to prevent galling.
Thanks everyone for the comments. I too like the O ring housings. When they work they work well. I especially like not having to scrape off gasket material whenever I want to remove the housing. I think I have just run through a string of bad luck lately with these housings. I checked two of them and both were warped. Looks like I need to do the glass pane and sandpaper routine. In the past I have used self-stick 220 grit on a glass pane with success.
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