looking into superfomance

[soc#427]

Don't have time not want the headache of building a car,so looking into the rollers: superformance or backdraft? I've seen both and like both. And, how would track time be with these cars?. Any info will be helpful. Thanks

[PANAVIA]

Buy a superformance. -- you can track it up. wheels, tires ,swaybars.

[JBCOBRA]

Superformance cars are excellent driving cars. I wanted a car to Drive as I don't do car shows and whatknot. Every time I get in that car I have a Blast!
They hold up well also. The only problems I have ever had with the car were non Spf related parts. Minor stuff.
There is one gentleman on here with 140,000 miles on his!

[kayakjack]

You can't go wrong with Superformance. I love mine. You will love it.

That said, Backdraft owners are happy with their cars too. If you are able, take a real close look at the differences between them. They are not the same. You will figure out which is the right one for you.

Have fun!!

Jack

[Tony Aprile]

Originally Posted by kayakjack

That said, Backdraft owners are happy with their cars too. If you are able, take a real close look at the differences between them. They are not the same. You will figure out which is the right one for you.

I agree...besides a visual inspection if your not able to drive both, then at least sit in both makes...and you'll know which is right for you.

[Fattyd]

Originally Posted by soc#427

Don't have time not want the headache of building a car,so looking into the rollers: superformance or backdraft? I've seen both and like both. And, how would track time be with these cars?. Any info will be helpful. Thanks

I narrowed it down to the same two choices when I was looking (I didn't want the headache of building either). I don't know what area of the country you are from but www.cobracountry.com was the site I surfed for years and ended up finding my car in the Chicago-area. Don't know if you are looking new or used but (if used) expect to probably pay around high $30's/low 40's for a BDR and high $40's/low 50's for an SPF. Although most will tell you no Shelby looks the same, I felt the "fit and finish" of the SPF (for the money) was the way to go and best exemplified the look of an original. My best (personal) advise is pick whatever car/replica that everytime you get in it you are happy with it. Good Luck.

[mrmustang]

Depending on your budget, you cannot go wrong with a SPF. As stated above, BDR members (most of them) appear to be quite happy with their choices as well. Although, I do notice a larger turnover of new BDR's vs SPF's,not quite sure as to why though, but it is worth mentioning just the same. Bottom line, buy what you like, and what you can afford, then enjoy the ride.......................

Yours In Fords,


Bill S.

[Blittleton]

If you want to track and enjoy the street, the Backdraft will be your better choice. BMW suspension handles on the track very well. Our cars do well on the track and street straight from the dealers. If you want a track Cup Car we have those as well. All out track car.

SPF's are great cars too, I enjoy working on them as well as our cars. You really can't go wrong with either one.

Bill

[kayakjack]

Here are some Superformance cars to consider:

http://superformance.org/forsale/

Jack

[r67cat]

I was looking for street and track performance when I bought my Cobra. After considering those who offered turn key cars, I decided on Superformance. My car has 14,000 + miles, best choice I could have made. I have enjoyed quite a few track days, never being trailered. Simply remove the top and side curtains from the trunk, adjust the tire pressure, put on a helmet and you are track ready. These cars are incredible as set up from the factory. At the end of the day, load back up the trunk, readjust the tire pressure and make the 90 mile trip back home. My best advice is to talk to owners who use their car as you anticipate using your car. Don't be shy about asking them to take you for a ride. A number of very nice Superformance cars are listed here. http://superformance.org/forsale

Rick

[Jim Kellogg]

You really need to look at both, as they are quite different close up. I think you will find most owners of either are happy with their choice. My shop works on both. If you get a chance, look at them in the air, so you can see the different chassis and how they are laid out.

My friend Don had his Backdraft in our shop yesterday, and I happened to take a couple of photos of his Red Backdraft next to my Blue Superformance. You can see the difference in body design both front and rear.







Drive them both. Look at them closely. Compare the standard equipment/options between the two. You will see and feel the difference, which will help you see what's best for you.
I like the Backdraft, but I love my Superformance!
Jim

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by Jim Kellogg

Jim

Don's car is looking great! That color combo really is gorgeous... they both look good. Glad he found a Cobra buddy out there.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by Blittleton

If you want to track and enjoy the street, the Backdraft will be your better choice. BMW suspension handles on the track very well. Our cars do well on the track and street straight from the dealers. If you want a track Cup Car we have those as well. All out track car.

SPF's are great cars too, I enjoy working on them as well as our cars. You really can't go wrong with either one.

Bill

I applaud you Bill for your unbiased input.

[Blittleton]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

I applaud you Bill for your unbiased input.

Thanks, I'm just tired of a one sided opinion when it come to SPF and BDR cars. I just notice that a Superformance Dealers don't get the same attention of being one sided. I understand they need to stroke themselves a little more than the rest of us, but come on. Anyways

Both cars are great and it sure is great playing and building both. I have done many of each. I have three Spf in for service right now. Not to mention several BDR's. Now if I can only get the rest of CVG area cobra's to stop in. Rent needs to be paid!!!

Bill

[Cashburn]

Well since you live in CT you need to come and see us. We can also navigate you through the CT registration process, including taking it through inspection for a fee. I know SPF won't do that

At the very least, visit us and then visit the SPF shop on LI if it is still there?

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Well since you live in CT you need to come and see us. We can also navigate you through the CT registration process, including taking it through inspection for a fee. I know SPF won't do that

Right you are,

We will not do that, at least in New York, as it is NOT legal! We cannot register a "self build" component vehicle for a customer. We can and do offer advice. We also do not sell "turn key" cars into the US. We do not sell powertrain components to people that we have sold chassis' to. We CAN sell powertrain to someone who bought from another dealer or do turn key to people outside the US.

And we do not "rat out" those who have violated the US and state regulations despite that they might be considered "competitors" as we don't want to encourage additional regulation and inspection of this industry.

And speaking for myself, I do not post on other manufacturers forums to promote or offer my products.

The BDR is a fine product and right for many customers, so is the ERA, etc. There is no need to snipe in other forums top promote our products.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Right you are,

We will not do that, at least in New York, as it is NOT legal! We cannot register a "self build" component vehicle for a customer. We can and do offer advice. We also do not sell "turn key" cars into the US. We do not sell powertrain components to people that we have sold chassis' to. We CAN sell powertrain to someone who bought from another dealer or do turn key to people outside the US.

And we do not "rat out" those who have violated the US and state regulations despite that they might be considered "competitors" as we don't want to encourage additional regulation and inspection of this industry.

And speaking for myself, I do not post on other manufacturers forums to promote or offer my products.

The BDR is a fine product and right for many customers, so is the ERA, etc. There is no need to snipe in other forums top promote our products.

With all due respect... how many companies do you operate? Notice I said "we" that means the BDR dealer and the 3rd party powertrain installer.

Pot / Black.

The OP asked about the 2 cars, I suggested he visit both. That's more than fair. How's biz?

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

With all due respect... how many companies do you operate? Notice I said "we" that means the BDR dealer and the 3rd party powertrain installer.

Pot / Black.

The OP asked about the 2 cars, I suggested he visit both. That's more than fair. How's biz?

Biz is "less bad" as one guy explained his companies outlook on the current economy.

I operate ONE and only ONE business entity, Time Machines Motorsports LLC. No "affiliated" operations, no "sister" compnies and no other "arms length" entities.

"Third Party" installer....OK, sure and of course you do not invoice/collect or bill the customer for the total amount, right?

And while I am in "Smart Ass" mode, why hasn't any BDR dealer posted a reply on the tread with the guy asking about replacing a halfshaft? Should I reply? I could of course state that BDRs commonly puke halfshafts (of course I know this is not true, only when abused will they fail. You guys do use quailty parts...and so does SPF, ERA, Riverside and most others). We can snipe at each other forever or we do a "Rodney King" and "all just get along".

Hey,
No hard feelings, really. Let's get together at Carlisle and I'll buy a few barley pops................

[Blittleton]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Biz is "less bad" as one guy explained his companies outlook on the current economy.

I operate ONE and only ONE business entity, Time Machines Motorsports LLC. No "affiliated" operations, no "sister" compnies and no other "arms length" entities.

"Third Party" installer....OK, sure and of course you do not invoice/collect or bill the customer for the total amount, right?

And while I am in "Smart Ass" mode, why hasn't any BDR dealer posted a reply on the tread with the guy asking about replacing a halfshaft? Should I reply? I could of course state that BDRs commonly puke halfshafts (of course I know this is not true, only when abused will they fail. You guys do use quailty parts...and so does SPF, ERA, Riverside and most others). We can snipe at each other forever or we do a "Rodney King" and "all just get along".

Hey,
No hard feelings, really. Let's get together at Carlisle and I'll buy a few barley pops................

Maybe Jim has called me personally and his question was answered. We do our business away from forums because of this type of responses.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

"Third Party" installer....OK, sure and of course you do not invoice/collect or bill the customer for the total amount, right?

Hey,
No hard feelings, really. Let's get together at Carlisle and I'll buy a few barley pops................

You got 2 things right... atleast