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Old 10-30-2010, 09:30 PM
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A replica of a 1967 Corvette L88 Convertible. They only made 20.

I'll take two please.
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Old 10-31-2010, 06:03 AM
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A replica of a 1967 Corvette L88 Convertible. They only made 20.

I'll take two please.
Read the article on this 67 L88, Classic! Couldnt have scripted it any better for this discussion!

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2010/...e-convertible/
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A replica of a 1967 Corvette L88 Convertible. They only made 20.

I'll take two please.
Keep the L88's. I'll take a '69 ZL-1. Only TWO were made.

http://www.rogerscorvette.com/spots/feb98/spot.htm
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:43 PM
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Keep the L88's. I'll take a '69 ZL-1. Only TWO were made.

http://www.rogerscorvette.com/spots/feb98/spot.htm
I wasn't aware that they made any Corvettes after 1967.
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I wasn't aware that they made any Corvettes after 1967.
Good one. The mid-years have those classic lines, don't they?
I need to raid every seat cushion in CA so that I can scrape up enough change to buy the new ZR-1.

So GM and SPF either pump up the Grand Sport or it's the Vega. Volt...Vega...same difference.
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A replica of a 1967 Corvette L88 Convertible. They only made 20.

I'll take two please.


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Keep the L88's. I'll take a '69 ZL-1. Only TWO were made.

http://www.rogerscorvette.com/spots/feb98/spot.htm
In either case, Id just buy a small block '67, '69 driver, and fix it up to an L88 / ZL1, and in the end, you'll still have a real vette, not a fakey, and for probably less money.
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:51 PM
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Most cheap Vettes have been beaten on and bent. And the ones that are very nice I wouldn't dare modify or cut up. Certainly not a SB '67. Further, have you checked on the prices of repro Vette parts? Holy smokes.

Also, I would hope that technology has come a long way, and it has, in terms of suspension, body, chassis, geometry, etc. that all the old heavy metal underneath would be long gone and replaced with new modern lighter stuff, say like, um, er, a Kirkham.

Personally, I'm not hung up on owning a fakey doo, although you will find my car is in the SAAC World Registry.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's going to be a Vega replica. The market has been begging for one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...item3a5fed8693
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I'm pretty sure it's going to be a Vega replica. The market has been begging for one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...item3a5fed8693
If they use the same motor design, that's going to create an oil shortage for sure.
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It is the unveiling of the 1963 Grand Sport Corvette replica. The blue roadster shown in another thread is NOT built by Superformance. It was built by Duntov motors alone. This will be the first one built by Superformance and it is using the original molds. The Duntov car was not built using original molds.

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Man!, would I like to have one of these with a Coyote Mod motor in it.

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Man!, would I like to have one of these with a Coyote Mod motor in it.

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I'd love the Coupe with a LS7
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I understand the GS also had a much thinner body (of glass) than the standard production Vette, (to add lightness ).
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The original grand sports were made from regular 1963 Corvette Coupe bodies. The convertibles came about when they hacked the roofs off of two of coupes later on. Zora Duntov had molds made for the flares and modified the other components. I've noticed that Superformance did not hold true to the original design-no holes in rear taillamp panel, which uses standard 63-67 taillights, the parking lamps are not recesses, no slits in the rear quarters,etc

It would depend on the price, but i think if i were tog to build one currently i would go with mongoose. You can use c5-c6 suspension on their models, which is a huge plus to me. I do not want a transverse rear spring or small u-joint half axles in a sports car with over 400-500hp to the wheels.
http://www.mongoosems.com/GrandSportPhotoGallery.php

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The 1963 Grand Sports, while originally looking much like the production coupes, had no body parts in common. The fiberglass body panels were roughly half the thickness of production panels to save weight.
From the Google, for what it's worth...
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I owned a 63 covertible small block Vette about 15 years ago. I wish I still owned it because the car is worth alot more now (sold it for 35k with just under 50k miles), but the performance was lacking. It was slow and handled like crap. IMO it would take alot of work and cash to get good performance from a clone using a real one. I would opt for the replica if it were my money.
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I like what these guys do. You can take
an original body and put on it or a replica body.
Then you can make it into a Grand Sport. The
late model stuff makes it the best handler.

http://www.sriiimotorsports.com/196382corvette.html

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I owned a 63 covertible small block Vette about 15 years ago. I wish I still owned it because the car is worth alot more now (sold it for 35k with just under 50k miles), but the performance was lacking. It was slow and handled like crap. IMO it would take alot of work and cash to get good performance from a clone using a real one. I would opt for the replica if it were my money.
Surprisingly, they handle pretty well given that that suspension design is almost 50 years old. Im guessing you had a car that had worn out springs, bushings, etc. Mine were the same way when i purchased them, but with new springs, rubber bushings, and upgraded shocks, they are ok. However the 327 really needs upgraded heads and other components to handle well. Actually, so do most of the 427 cars. You have to remember that these cars have around 1,000 pounds of extra fat on them compared to the original and replica cobras.

I could be wrong about the bodies-i have book after book after book and they all state that the bodies were not different from a regular production 63. The glass is so thin and the bodies are so light anyway-really surprising that they would thin them out, but i guess anything is possible. One way or another though, those molds were destroyed a long time ago-whether it be for the mid year corvette, the grand sport, or otherwise.

In regards to the 63 being worth more than 35,000-i dont know if that is really accurate right now. If you are taking prices from Barrett-jackson, maybe, but it is hard to even get 45,000 for a fully restored, matching numbers car in the current market.
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Surprisingly, they handle pretty well given that that suspension design is almost 50 years old. Im guessing you had a car that had worn out springs, bushings, etc. Mine were the same way when i purchased them, but with new springs, rubber bushings, and upgraded shocks, they are ok. However the 327 really needs upgraded heads and other components to handle well. Actually, so do most of the 427 cars. You have to remember that these cars have around 1,000 pounds of extra fat on them compared to the original and replica cobras.

I could be wrong about the bodies-i have book after book after book and they all state that the bodies were not different from a regular production 63. The glass is so thin and the bodies are so light anyway-really surprising that they would thin them out, but i guess anything is possible. One way or another though, those molds were destroyed a long time ago-whether it be for the mid year corvette, the grand sport, or otherwise.

In regards to the 63 being worth more than 35,000-i dont know if that is really accurate right now. If you are taking prices from Barrett-jackson, maybe, but it is hard to even get 45,000 for a fully restored, matching numbers car in the current market.
The car had just over 40k miles on it when I bought it. Maybe the suspension could have been worn, but with only 40k miles I would be surprised. I think upgraded components is what it needed. The 327, like you said, was lacking power. The car was a cool cruiser and attracted alot of attention, but it was not a car that performed well. My 64 tri-power GTO was a much better performer than my vette.

I have not kept up with prices since the economy crashed. If 35k is a good price for that car now, that is sad.
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