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01-08-2012, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
And, Glen, when Mark IV gets his "nose out of joint" he disappears from the thread and replies no more.  I've seen it a couple of times now. You have to wonder whether he treats his customers the same way.
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Uh, Pat - he posted at 7:44pm last night. About 14 hours ago. Since then you have posted three times on this thread.
You are grinding some sort of ax. Not attractive.
Jack
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01-07-2012, 11:05 PM
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So there's an FIA roller available at Gulf Coast Motorworks for $69.9K, so take a guess at what the slabside costs. It's got to be close to that.
BTW - Interesting that that Gulf Coast shows the list price for all of the cars that they have for sale.
Sales
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No stop signs, speed limit - Nobody's gonna slow me down - Like a wheel, gonna spin it
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01-08-2012, 12:01 AM
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Thanks for the link Doug. I hadn't heard of Gulf Coast before now.
At least now I have a ballpark price.
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01-08-2012, 03:03 AM
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Ive missed this thread, i would of actually estimated the roller price to of been around the $68k +/-. It seems a SPF 427 is currently low $50k.
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01-08-2012, 03:07 PM
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Mark, you are a man of great tolerance. A wise old man once told me, “you know it is a bit like a dog pile, the more you stir it the worse it stinks.” You are in debate with someone who wants nothing more than to provoke and argue. He will neither buy a car, nor will he help you sell one. Now I am beginning to remember why I have not posted here for over a year.
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01-08-2012, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kencollett
Now I am beginning to remember why I have not posted here for over a year.
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Well, since you have 5 posts in 11 years, seems like you are spot on your run rate. 
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01-08-2012, 07:49 PM
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And Kencollett's post was courteous - might be a lesson in there for the usual antagonists.
And if we are giving business lessons - the operators of club cobra should realize that the junk they allow to continue over and over year after year causes many many people to not even visit this website on a regular basis.
We all know that the regulars will ruin a thread sooner or later. so why even bother?
Maybe that would be a good thread - rate the moderators??
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01-08-2012, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DSM351
And Kencollett's post was courteous - might be a lesson in there for the usual antagonists.
And if we are giving business lessons - the operators of club cobra should realize that the junk they allow to continue over and over year after year causes many many people to not even visit this website on a regular basis.
We all know that the regulars will ruin a thread sooner or later. so why even bother?
Maybe that would be a good thread - rate the moderators??
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Here is a partial collection of patrickt's comments. The moderators find his behavior acceptable for Club Cobra. It is not my forum. They can do as they wish. He detracts from the forum. Allowing his continued participation on Club Cobra does reflect on the moderators. If this were my forum he would be gone for good...
Big block or small block?
post #6
What is it worth??? Newbie looking at buying first cobra
post #5 - in the Superformance subforum where he is banned
SOHC Kirkham
post # 30 - Pat says "I gave up bashing SPF cars for Lent"
Super Performance VS Backdraft
post #11
Jack
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01-09-2012, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DSM351
Maybe that would be a good thread - rate the moderators??
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Wonderful...
We have our guidelines, we know when to let a conversation roll...and when to nip it in the bud.
We know when to censure and when to censor. It works.
The Forum is based on "discussion"... that often means differing opinions.
Civilized dissent is allowed; personal attacks or obscene and vulgar behavior is not.
Jamo and I know what it takes to keep Cobra owners happy and behaved....and coming back to the forum. A few don't...and that's OK.
That, my friend, is not an easy task.
Keep the rest of this thread on topic...the SPF SB Street car.
thanks
ron
ClubCobra Moderator
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01-08-2012, 09:57 PM
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Dear Kencollett, DSM351 & Kayakjack,
I think you guys are being a little harsh.
Perhaps you are just having a bad day. I know I'm about to, by posting this, but feel it must be said.
True Patrick does stir the pot a little, and can tend to put some offside with his dry sarcastic nature, but in reality it's totally harmless.
Further I think you'll find that Patrick has assisted more people & has more posts resolving member's issues than the four of us have total posts combined.
I think the moderators have done well to keep him on board
Kayakjack - its easy to take a few posts (quotes) out of context to justify ones argument.
Eg1:
Post #11
Super Performance VS Backdraft
Patrick clearly returning fire on an in house club joke about his 2 roll bars...
Eg2:
Post #30
SOHC Kirkham
When in context, I read it as Patrick encouraging the purchase of an SPF as a good idea.
Enjoy your day fellas
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Back to the thread Mark IV at $61K is about $10K cheaper than
Gulfcoast Motorworks.
Sales
Well done Mark IV
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01-08-2012, 10:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
Dear Kencollett, DSM351 & Kayakjack,
I think you guys are being a little harsh.
Perhaps you are just having a bad day. I know I'm about to, by posting this, but feel it must be said.
True Patrick does stir the pot a little, and can tend to put some offside with his dry sarcastic nature, but in reality it's totally harmless.
Further I think you'll find that Patrick has assisted more people & has more posts resolving member's issues than the four of us have total posts combined.
I think the moderators have done well to keep him on board
Kayakjack - its easy to take a few posts (quotes) out of context to justify ones argument.
Eg1:
Post #11
Super Performance VS Backdraft
Patrick clearly returning fire on an in house club joke about his 2 roll bars...
Eg2:
Post #30
SOHC Kirkham
When in context, I read it as Patrick encouraging the purchase of an SPF as a good idea.
Enjoy your day fellas
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I wish I was able to share your sentiment.
Patrick is not totally harmless. He means harm. Our love of these cars is enhanced by our sharing of information and helping each other in a positive way with issues that arise. Patrick has an ax to grind. He sometimes displays it in a humorous manner. Sometimes it is raw.
I own a Superformance. I don't mind discussion of Superformance or any other brand. That is one of the reasons we are here. But his constant bashing of Superformance grates on more people than those who speak up about it. It got him banned from the Superformance subforum, but that has not stopped him.
In this thread, all of his prattle about wanting to know the price of a Superformance is laughable. Now that he knows it, do you think he is ringing up a dealer to discuss purchase? He is just trying to make trouble.
As I said in my previous post, he should be banned from Club Cobra. He was banned from any participation in the Superformance subforum. He continued to post there. That is reason enough. That is also why I said his continued participation reflects on the moderators.
I am not having a bad day. I trust you are not either.
Jack
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01-09-2012, 12:21 AM
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Never thought I'd be sticking up for Pat....
I worked it out a while ago that he only stirs the pot if the pot's stirable. If you don't bite it's all OK.
And "...he means harm..."? Oh, come on please.
Some of us are reading this thread and grinding teeth; others are having a good ol' laugh. Life's too short to to get hung up on a little perceived brand rivalry. There's nothing personal here, really.
Cheers,
Glen
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01-09-2012, 03:26 AM
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And "...he means harm..."? Oh, come on please.
There's nothing personal here, really.
Cheers,
Glen
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Glen,
In this thread's post #37 Patrick questions the customer service of a dealer because he did not post something during the hours Saturday night when most people are asleep. If you do not have good customer service in this business, you have nothing. If there are doubts about your customer service, people who do not know you will not do business with you. New people look to this forum for advice and direction.
I do not think Patrick did that in jest. Stuff like that causes harm. He meant harm.
And it was personal.
Jack
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01-09-2012, 12:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kayakjack
I wish I was able to share your sentiment.
Patrick is not totally harmless. He means harm. Our love of these cars is enhanced by our sharing of information and helping each other in a positive way with issues that arise. Patrick has an ax to grind. He sometimes displays it in a humorous manner. Sometimes it is raw.
I own a Superformance. I don't mind discussion of Superformance or any other brand. That is one of the reasons we are here. But his constant bashing of Superformance grates on more people than those who speak up about it. It got him banned from the Superformance subforum, but that has not stopped him.
In this thread, all of his prattle about wanting to know the price of a Superformance is laughable. Now that he knows it, do you think he is ringing up a dealer to discuss purchase? He is just trying to make trouble.
As I said in my previous post, he should be banned from Club Cobra. He was banned from any participation in the Superformance subforum. He continued to post there. That is reason enough. That is also why I said his continued participation reflects on the moderators.
I am not having a bad day. I trust you are not either.
Jack
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I don't share your sentiment. The mods, Jamo and Ron, have tolerance and run an excellent forum. I'm not particularly fond of subjects like politics, guns, Chevy buying back the Volt, etc. on a Cobra forum. And then there other postings that are off-topic, but nice to hear like Brent Lykins having his first baby, etc.
Patrick gives this site some intelligence, personality and humanity. He has also helped me and others with many of his posts like replacing the rear tail lights with LED's or the stupid-looking Third Encounters brake light in his trunk latch. I mean, who really drives a beige Cobra anyway?
So Patrick throws a barb at the SPF. Really? That bothers you? Why? He can throw barbs all day long at Kirkham for not having a manual like the ERA's. What happened to a little tolerance?
The Great Buddha wrote: "'If a person foolishly does me wrong, I will return to him the protection of my boundless love. The more evil that comes from him the more good will go from me. I will always give off only the fragrance of goodness."
Yea, I know. Religion, ugh.
Anyway, that's my opinion. Back to topic, which is the SPF slabside with a base price of $60,900. That's honestly not a bad deal at all. Hmmm.
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01-09-2012, 02:49 PM
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I see car dealer websites all the time that will list a bunch of cars, and while most will have prices, there are some that say to call.
Whatever their reasons may be, it's their choice on how they want to operate their business. A person can either call, or find another place to do business with. They should not be subjected to the BS that went on here.
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01-09-2012, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverback51
I see car dealer websites all the time that will list a bunch of cars, and while most will have prices, there are some that say to call.
Whatever their reasons may be, it's their choice on how they want to operate their business. A person can either call, or find another place to do business with. They should not be subjected to the BS that went on here.
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Could not agree more!
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06-03-2013, 11:09 PM
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Superformance wants as much for their "plastic" cars as Kirkham wants for the ALuminum cars........... good luck with that! LOL!
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