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09-22-2009, 02:01 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 21,897
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Originally Posted by madmaxx
ERA's never stop depreciating and eventually the person will have to pay a disposal fee!!!!!
That was way to easy.
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Boy, talk about an uncalled-for kick to the crotch.  |
09-22-2009, 03:35 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
Posts: 3,293
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmaxx
ERA's never stop depreciating and eventually the person will have to pay a disposal fee!!!!!
That was way too easy.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Boy, talk about an uncalled-for kick to the crotch. |
I think he was referring to the dual roll bar ERAs...  
Sorry...you walked into that one. 
-Dean |
09-22-2009, 03:44 PM
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It was just to easy and felt so natural, sorry!!
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09-22-2009, 03:52 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 21,897
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmaxx
It was just to easy and felt so natural, sorry!!
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Believe me, I understand. I've been known to occasionally dish out a gratuitous crotch-kick myself. But it would be interesting to see the trends in other manufacturers, you could even leave dual-roll bar ERAs off the list if you want. |
09-22-2009, 04:57 PM
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In my opinion ERA does not advertise and relies on sales by word of mouth. They have always been ranked as one of the top of the line with limited production numbers which help to maintain resale value. When I was buying a SPF my buddy who owns a kit car (we still do not know the manufacturer) new well of ERA but never heard of Superformance. His has been sitting in the garage for 10 years. SPF and BDR advertise heavily. Everyone knows who assembled the chassis on BDR's and SPF's and who painted them. The quality is consistent from car to car. I have grown to appreciate ERA AFTER I have owned two other Cobras. For the first time buyer I feel SPF /BDR is an easier decision, for the guy buying his second or third, I feel ERA goes to the top of the list. I also feel ERA retains it value as good or better than SPF but due to them being in the north east I see little of them in Texas. I have a SPF and BDR dealer within 70 miles of my house. My next will be a Kirkham, hopefully I can find one in the upper $70's price range if not I always have the SPF to keep me distracted.
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09-23-2009, 04:31 PM
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Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: penn.,
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just sold for $30k
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09-23-2009, 05:05 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-FIA, 66 mustang convertible, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,627
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Originally Posted by mr bruce
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Now that was a great but for someone. Wonder how I missed it 
Bill S.
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09-23-2009, 05:32 PM
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I agree Great buy, BUT, if one could get a roller for $35K and install a roush for $14 and tko 600 and misc parts for $3.5K and be out the door for $49K I would think it is as good as deal and all brand spanking new. The one on ebay was powered by 385hp engine with 13K and a 3550. I feel the fair price for that car should have been $36-39K if the paint was excellent.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
Now that was a great but for someone. Wonder how I missed it
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09-23-2009, 08:17 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmaxx
I agree Great buy, BUT, if one could get a roller for $35K and install a roush for $14 and tko 600 and misc parts for $3.5K and be out the door for $49K I would think it is as good as deal and all brand spanking new. The one on ebay was powered by 385hp engine with 13K and a 3550. I feel the fair price for that car should have been $36-39K if the paint was excellent.
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I agree, and those Chevy 427 stickers on the cleaner probably hurt the price too.
A very good deal for someone. |
09-24-2009, 09:14 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ottawa,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2002 Superformance w/392 stroker
Posts: 1,605
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr bruce
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Wow, that's one helluva deal! You guys are spoilt for choice down there in the U.S. This price -- $30,200 USD -- works out to about $32,300 CAD at today's exchange rate. There's no way you could ever buy an SPF for anywhere near that up here in Canada, where they are in extremely tight supply.
I did a quick scan of AutoTrader, Kijiji and a few other sources, and here's the list of SPFs currently for sale up here. - $67,500 - 2002MY, solid back, 392 (351W), Brampton ON
- $69,795 - unknown MY, blue w/white, 393 (351W), Surrey BC
- $73,588 - 2002MY, solid red, 392 (351W), Oakville ON
- $89,900 - 2005MY, grey w/black, 392 (351W), Toronto ON
- $95,000 - 2008MY, midnight blue w/grey, 408R (351W) with EFI, Calgary AB
- $114,728 - 2005MY, titanium w/black, 427R (351W) with EFI, Barrie ON
What a difference a border makes...
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Last edited by SunDude; 01-28-2010 at 09:33 AM..
Reason: one car added to list
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09-24-2009, 09:58 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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FWIW, a '95 SPF is a very early build. Not suggesting that it wasn't well bought, because it was. But that car in stock form lacks considerable changes from even my 700 series car (built in '00). In the hands of the right buyer that car could easily resell for north of $35K (and to someone in Canada!). If there was ever an opportunity in today's economy to flip a Cobra, that was one of them!
-Dean
Last edited by RedBarchetta; 09-24-2009 at 10:08 AM..
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09-24-2009, 11:27 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SunDude
What a difference a border makes...
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And the fact that Transport Canada no longer allows the import of Cobras. |
09-22-2011, 01:48 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ottawa,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2002 Superformance w/392 stroker
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Time for an update...
I'm still keeping track of Superformance MkIII roadsters listed on Club Cobra and Cobra Country, and figured it might be time to update this thread.
To date I have tracked 216 SPFs for sale (mainly private listings, not dealers). The average asking price across all 216 cars was $52,935 USD. Here are the average asking prices broken down by model year:
1995 - $40,496
1996 - $41,500
1997 - $44,633
1998 - $46,498
1999 - $45,332
2000 - $49,667
2001 - $46,471
2002 - $49,037
2003 - $48,941
2004 - $50,742
2005 - $57,743
2006 - $61,726
2007 - $60,986
2008 - $53,370
2009 - $71,560
2010 - $71,500
2011 - n/a
n/a - $54,125
The greatest number of cars were 2005 models (39), followed by 2000 models (28), then 2006s (20), 2004s (19) and 2002s (18).
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09-22-2011, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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I think SPF's are a great,.... cobra.
40-55k is fair, and no more.
$70,000,.....are you kidding me !
Save a bit more and get a Shelby or Kirkham.
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09-22-2011, 05:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
Posts: 2,613
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You ought to see that $70k one.
A Blackout beauty with carbon fibre stripes. The Roush engine has $1000 valve covers and much more.
That price is in line with what he has in it.
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09-22-2011, 05:23 PM
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Senile Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Time Machines Motorsports LLC- Superformance Dealer
Posts: 4,489
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwd
And the fact that Transport Canada no longer allows the import of Cobras.
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Not true. A "Cobra" of eligible, verifiable vintage IS importable. Early SPFs are eligible for import and registration in Canada. A business associate has an early SPF with a 427 available in Ontario now. It was imported LEGALLY and approved by TC and Canada Customs. Attempting to import a 2010 built car that is registered as a "1965" will not fly and those guys at the boarder are not stupid.
The "ban" is on newer builds, "kit cars" (NOT "starter kits") and those who try to circumvent the Candaian regulations.
If you are in Canada and interested in the Red 427 SPF there, contact me. Or if you want to purchase a LEGAL "starter kit" car I can put you in contact with the person who knows how to do it right. |
09-22-2011, 05:34 PM
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Most dealers have none in stock. If you want new then you have to wait, SPF is charging the same $$ or more for a roller. The markets bottomed, if you find a guy looking for a plastic replica with no ac, top, creature comforts for $50k plus he is recession/depression proof at the time of his purchase. I beleive in the "right" city you can sell a pristine SPF with a Roush, KC engine for mid 50's within a month. Remeber you only have to find one buyer for your car. A new compartive new SPF would be close to $70K. Either way a SPF is has depreciated exponentially LESS than BAC,C,NFLX,and half of all mutual funds out there!!!
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09-22-2011, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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Mine is for sale and if that chart is correct, mine is underpriced, and I have all the extra goodies on it.
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09-22-2011, 08:13 PM
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Backdraft Racing Dealer
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fordracing65
Mine is for sale and if that chart is correct, mine is underpriced, and I have all the extra goodies on it.
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Wrong engine for the market. |
09-22-2011, 10:51 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
Wrong engine for the market.
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This engine will walk your coyote builds, the DOHC cammer has more wins for ford in grand am than any another engine, also all the ford gt's at le mans use the cammer 5.0. Everyman is entilted to his opinion. (Ive sold 2 cobras with chevy motors in them there replicars not real shelbys remember)
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