jdean status as of Sat 4pm

[jayscobras]

Now you are gettin it

Jay

[TXWOOD]

Prayers are out for John and his family for a speedy recovery. Best to ALL

[GlynMeek]

...and also some confusion about the use of the word "vernacular"

a: using a language or dialect native to a region or country rather than a literary, cultured, or foreign language b: of, relating to, or being a nonstandard language or dialect of a place, region, or country c: of, relating to, or being the normal spoken form of a language

sorry Wildthing, NOTHING 'vernacular' at all in the statement

As a result of a rollover accident subsequent to the completion of the 4th of July Parade

LOL

Glyn

[Excaliber]

Jay has all ready posted the BASIC details on another web site, it's just Club Cobra that is being snubbed in that regard.

The first post that started this thread said something about an accident and a parade. The question logically followed, during or after the parade? The question should have been answered and accompanied by a reasonably polite request to await further information in regards to the family. Instead the question was stone walled, insults were hurled and now 'family honor' is at stake. Gimme a break! You take a mole hill and turn it into a Texas sized mountain and then go all patriotic about it.

You know, sometimes the best way to 'cover up the details' and 'honor family' in a politically sensitive case, such as this, is to be forth coming with at least fundamental information. Stone walling and insults will only add to the stress OF the family! Think about it...

For fellow Club Cobra members:
The accident was AFTER the parade, about a mile away. From that I take it no parade spectators were injured and the accident was limited to a few persons only. Whew, thats a relief.

[G_Edmonds]

As is the case in many areas these days, a lot of people cannot make the distinction between what they want and what they need. What some seem to want are lurid details. What they need is nothing in regards to this incident unless they were involved.
Take care John and Elaine.

-Greg

[Excaliber]

I do hope when jdean is feeling better he will share the 'lurid' and 'gory' details, as some have irresponsibly put it, about how the accident happened. Specifically, details about how the accident developed.

I ride a motorcycle everyday, have for years. When I hear of a motorcycle accident I want ALL the details of what happened to cause it. I try to put myself in that riders boots, make that experience my own. I've taught my son to do the same, LEARN from other people, make THEIR experience a part of you. New's reports rarely cover details of how an accident developed, instead focusing on injury, damage, etc. The 'gory' details if you would, but thats not important.

As an owner of a high powered car, I feel the same way as I do about my motorcycle. I think most high powered car owners feel that way too. So in good time, yes, I want the details! But I am also sensitive to the familys needs, not just now, but down the road in time. It may be to embarrasing or to horrific to recall, detail or talk about in a public forum. Thats OK, I understand. As a high performance car owner I don't assume ANYONE here is asking for 'shock value' headlines or gory details. Casting blame? Well that is problematic, I'll grant you it can be a tough when you start to reconstruct an accident. It is common to not want to talk about it, any accident and thats to bad, because it just might save someones life.

Many, if not most, of us, have 'spun out' in some manner, I have several times. Had some close calls, got lucky, LEARNED from it.

Get well soon John.

[Clois Harlan]

How do things become so complicated? Good Luck today John.

Clois

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by Clois Harlan

How do things become so complicated?

Indeed.

Enough of the side trips.

Please keep this thread solely for the purpose of well-wishes to jdean and (as per the topic) updates on his status.

thanks
ron
ClubCobra Moderator

[RalphSchmalph]

I agree with the tone and thrust of Excaliber's position on this matter. It's not fair to call CC members ghoulish simply because we share a common love for these cars and are concerned if we might also be at risk due to mechanical issues or other avoidable though unusual situations that may have contributed to the accident. I also understand that there may be legal issues involved (civil, criminal or both) in the accident and in that case it wouldn't be right to discuss the details while it's under investigation. Our motives should not be questioned in this forum. We are all hoping for a speedy recovery and wish peace and comfort to the family. Hopefully the facts will all come out one day for the benefit of those of us who take some measure of risk every time we fire up one of these beasts.

[4RE KLR]

Thank You Ron!

John, you and your family are in our prayers.

[jayscobras]

I just got off of the phone with Elaine. John's surgery is tomorrow at 7:15 a.m. and should last approximately two hours. John's spirits are high and is ready to get the heck out of there. Prayers please during the surgery or at least good thoughts.

Thank you for all of your thoughts and prayers.

Jay

[xlr8or]

Glad to hear his spirits are high and things are moving along.

[Jimi G]

My prayers will be with you and your family during your surgery tomorrow John. I hope for a speedy recovery for you and your car.

Jimi G.

[Gregg(What's his name)?]

Thanks Jay for the update.

John keep the spirits high and know that you are in our prayers.

Gregg H

[RedBarchetta]

Boy, you hate to read about things like this. I sure hope John's surgery is a success and he gets patched up.

-Dean

[jayscobras]

John will not be going into surgery in the morning. I just got off the phone with John and he is not confortable with his doctor and has decided for a second opinion. We will wait until he has that warm and fuzzy feeling. Please do not let the prayers stop.

After numerous surgeries I understand his feelings. More will be reported as it happens. Thank you all.

Jay

[dblbarrel]

A second opinion never hurts, best wishes to John and bestest of luck.
Jay thanks for the updates.

[SSSammy]

Second opinion .. always a good choice! John, I know how conflicted you must be about that .. but, it's your only neck! MB and I are thinking and praying about you and Elaine. Keep swinging!

Thank you Jay!

best wishes,
Sam and MB

[Traveller]

Hang in there John

[Madmiles442]

Good call John,
If for any reason you're not fully committed to your doc, get that second opinion!
Following my hip replacement last August (for which I'm still having 9/10 pain level ) I'll always get a 2nd and probably a 3rd!
Being stable, there's no rush, brother!