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04-07-2008, 05:34 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Granite Bay,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF GT40P-2265/393W, KMP318 (PROJECT!!!!!)/CSX478
Posts: 1,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LETSRCE
Wow Ron, did I hit a nerve?
Your not the idiot I was corisponding with via email are you?
If not, you don't have all the facts so you can't make a factual comment.
And I just checked the mirror to see if your correct, your not 
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Joe,
No, I have no idea with whom you were previously corresponding. The person may well actually be an idiot, but that doesn't make it any nicer to call them such. As a self-appointed defender of idiots worldwide, and an acquaintance of several of the hard-working organizers of the BASH, I couldn't let that last comment go by unchallenged. The terms of the contract we all agree to when we send in our cash are clearly presented.
Besides, you can catch more flys with honey, than with... 
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Ron R
"Dishwasher? I thought that was for cleaning parts!?"
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04-07-2008, 06:39 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Folsom,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 623, 427 S/C Cobra. Ford FE 428 Cobra Jet, Ford Nascar TL 4speed - with a touch of raw; "less is more" theme
Posts: 3,887
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Oh Brother...
Folks,
It's only a few each year who truly have no idea or no clue or just don't READ agreements before they agree to them. If you are in doubt, go re-read your registration agreement that you agreed to. In particular, the big BOLD letters in RED. Our funds and deposits are committed, insurance, required name lists, security, license plates, cars/types/colors - all this stuff is done well in advance. We don't have the option to just keep changing and changing and changing along the way every time someone runs into thier own conflicts for their own personal matters or schedules. All events are like this. NOTE: We tried the swap/exchange routine the first and second year and it was a huge MESS and not because of us. We had people trying to hold and resell their spots, and buyers committing to buy other people's spots and flaking out at the last minute, or not paying the other person, people not paying each other for rooms, all us getting stuck in the middle. Done, been there, not ever going there again. NEVER. The situation is people say one thing and then do another and then change their minds or pull all sorts of crap last minute or make up fake excuses because they panic and don't want to make the drive in their Cobras or their cars aren't ready or they forget their daughters graduation, you name it. We've had every fake and legitimate excuse in the book then to find out half of those who said they could not make it end up showing up anyhow because they did not want to lose their registration or spot for the next year.
This thread is case and point as to why we don't deal with this kind of stuff and we'd never be able to put on WSCB if we made exceptions for every person who came up with a last minute schedule conflict. If you schedule something on the same day as WSCB, that's your choice. You can attend or not attend. This is your choice, not ours. Surgery, Funeral, Graduation, Brain Fart, doesn't matter. I checked all over on several different events and they have the same policy. This is nothing new, and only new to those who are new. Your conflicts are your conflicts and our dates and funding is set if we are lucky to cover all the bills to put this thing on. All first/second year attendees wanted us to keep the sponsors and complexity out and keep this private, so we did. All the new people want to come along and start trying to make up new rules. The rules were on the agreement that everyone agreed to when they registered. This is why there is an agreement. And this is why it has to be agreed to for you to register.
One thing for sure, anyone who calls me or any of us an idiot at WSCB with absolutely no clue or understanding about what's involved here probably would never appreciate WSCB in the first place. The ratio is there is always about 1-2 dorks in the bunch of every 50 new attendees who try to attend, register, and then flake out on WSCB last minute with some excuse or conflict. That leaves about 198 other people who are able and willing to attend and who make it every year.
Thanks for the thread. It really helps us to reconfirm what we concluded on year one and year two. If you choose not to attend, it's your option and your choice - not ours. And as they say, "Good Luck to Ya".
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Duane
Western States Cobra Group 1998-2016.
Last edited by decooney; 04-07-2008 at 08:28 PM..
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04-07-2008, 08:52 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Just to set the record straight, I did delete my message as soon as I heard that there were no transfers or refunds! I can also post a copy of the court order I got today authorizing my surgery and stating that it had to be done within 30 days. The first opening the doctor had was April 28th so I would think that Like most things in this world that a unknown medical issue stated a month and a half before the event should warrant a refund or at least the ability to offer the spot to someone else. However, As I said, I recinded my message and was willing to eat the cost after re-reading the agreement. I personally take offense that I am being accused of being a flake and take the entire message left by Duane as an insult! I think Duane, you owe me an apology at the very least. I am sure there are flakes that cancel at the last minute and I agree there should be a penalty. However this is a month and a half away and I know there are many people that would be willing to pay you directly for my spot if it was available. I think I will post the court order anyway, just to prove that unexpected things happen to the best of us. You remind me of my old bosses who would punish everybody for the problems caused by one or two people. All that does is foster resentment from the innocent people and the guilty one's are oblivious to it anyway. No wonder our country is so screwed up with decision makers like yourself!
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04-07-2008, 10:54 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Folsom,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 623, 427 S/C Cobra. Ford FE 428 Cobra Jet, Ford Nascar TL 4speed - with a touch of raw; "less is more" theme
Posts: 3,887
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FFRCobraMike
I think Duane, you owe me an apology at the very least. I am sure there are flakes that cancel at the last minute and I agree there should be a penalty...
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This one was not actually directed at you. It was the idiots calling out idiots. Saw your deleted post. No apology necessary, and I'll just ignore the rest of your post to be frank. And yeah, the flakes never admit they are flakes, they just come up with really good excuses. Is what it is, and the rest attend. As for the other assumptions about it being 1.5 months away, that statement has no merit as there is no basis or understanding about what we do after we close registration and move on to other things....
Oh well, nuff said, I defer back to the agreement; it's there for this reason and ongoing headaches of debate with those who don't really understand what is involved, and what is at stake here to begin with, Duane
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Duane
Western States Cobra Group 1998-2016.
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