Having Surgery-Can't go to WSCB- Anyone Want my Spot

[vanoochka]

Originally Posted by LETSRCE

Wow Ron, did I hit a nerve?
Your not the idiot I was corisponding with via email are you?
If not, you don't have all the facts so you can't make a factual comment.
And I just checked the mirror to see if your correct, your not

I assume the people running the event actually have day jobs, so I'm guessing their motivation for taking a hard line is due the hassle-factor of processing all the cancellations and/or transers.

Anything can happen between now and then, and I'll be pissed if I have to pull out, too. But, I agreed to the terms and took the risk so I certainly won't publicly whine about it if it happens.

This is just my two cents, but if you want to claim the intellectual high ground by calling others idiots, you may want to at least double-check your spelling and grammar while you are doing so.

It's not "your," it's you're.
It's not "corisponding," it's corresponding.

[jmarsey]

vanoochka,

Thank you for catching that glaring detail.

I’ll see you soon on the 19th,

Idiot

[decooney]

For Reference:
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/agreement


AGREEMENT, contract. The consent of two or more persons concurring, respecting the transmission of some property, right or benefit, with a view of contracting an obligation. Bac. Ab. h.t.; Com. Dig. h.t.; Vin. Ab. h.t.; Plowd. 17; 1 Com. Contr. 2; 5 East's R. 16. It will be proper to consider, 1, the requisites of an agreement; 2, the kinds of agreements; 3, how they are annulled.
2.-1. To render an agreement complete six things must concur; there must be, 1, a person able to contract; 2, a person able to be contracted with; 3, a thing to be contracted for; 4, a lawful consideration, or quid pro quo; 5, words to express the agreement; 6, the assent of the contracting parties. Plowd. 161; Co. Litt. 35, b.
3.-2. As to their form, agreements are of two kinds; 1, by parol, or, in writing, as contradistinguished from specialties; 2, by specialty, or under seal. In relation to their performance, agreements are executed or executory. An agreement is said to be executed when two or more persons make over their respective rights in a thing to one another, and thereby change the property therein, either presently and at once, or at a future time, upon some event that shall give it full effect, without either party trusting to the other; as where things are bought, paid for and delivered. Executory agreements, in the ordinary acceptation of the term, are such contracts as rest on articles, memorandums, parol promises, or undertakings, and the like, to be performed in future, or which are entered into preparatory to more solemn and formal alienations of property. Powell on Cont. Agreements are also conditional and unconditional. They are conditional when some condition must be fulfilled before they can have full effect; they are unconditional when there is no condition attached;
4.-3. Agreements are annulled or rendered of no effect, first, by the acts of the parties, as, by payment; release - accord and satisfaction; rescission, which is express or implied; 1 Watts & Serg. 442; defeasance; by novation: secondly, by the acts of the law, as, confusion; merger; lapse of time; death, as when a man who has bound himself to teach an apprentice, dies; extinction of the thing which is the subject of the contract, as, when the agreement is to deliver a certain horse and before the time of delivery he dies. See Discharge of a Contract.
5. The writing or instrument containing an agreement is also called an agreement, and sometimes articles of agreement.(q.v.)
6. It is proper, to remark that there is much difference between an agreement and articles of agreement which are only evidence of it. From the moment that the parties have given their consent, the agreement or contract is formed, and, whether it can be proved or not, it has not less the quality to bind both contracting parties. A want of proof does not make it null, because that proof may be supplied aliunde, and the moment it is obtained, the contract may be enforced.
7. Again, the agreement may be mull, as when it was obtained by fraud, duress, and the like; and the articles of agreement may be good, as far as the form is concerned. Vide Contract. Deed; Guaranty; Parties to Contracts.

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In this case, the terms are in the agreement, and you agreed to it if you successfully registered.

[decooney]

Oh, and THANKS to the rest of you who sent me emails and called my cell phone today to alert me about the whining session going on here in this thread on CC. Sorry I did not respond sooner. But, those of you who know us, knew we would. I've been out of state back East dealing with a very serious family matter with a Mother near expiring, and just saw this thread now. Sure takes the rest of the flame out of a person to come back and read this stuff, and I probably am an idiot for putting up with any of it when I do have a regular job that I work 60-hours a week at plus 300-400hrs donated time to WSCB each year, and all for non-profit; not including the rest of the folks who donate their time. Hmmm. We may have to really rethink this for 2009, possibly letting the attendees put on their own event. You can't secure anything or put anything on without non-refundable deposits and expenditures that cannot be refunded. That all comes from attendee registration fees. For us who do donate time, the main reward comes from those who actually show up each year. Thanks to the rest of you for your ongoing support and understanding about how this is all made possible. And, for the rest who still don't understand - we agree to disagree with you, and defer back to the agreement you agreed to.

[thudmaster]

I'm just glad you still put it on.............

[decooney]

Thanks Ed. I'm starting to show some deep scars now, can you tell? Even with rock solid attendee agreements, bold letters on every sentence prefixed with the words "Attention", in Red, repeated several times, over and over again - 1% still like to bash the Bash. Having to hold the line is not fun and I don't enjoy it - at all; not easy. This is the 1% I truly do hate about this donated job. You know if anyone does, my dream is to become a WSCB attendee someday. Just register, drive up, and attend. Wow! Now that would be so simple. Maybe next year, if I can find a capable idiot with some idiot money to pay for the idiot basics I paid for to get this all started, and about 1600 hours of free time invested so far. It would have to jump to 500 cars or so to become profitable. Computer skills required. Know of such an idiot? If so, I'd like to meet that idiot soon. We could have an idiot meeting with an idiotic agenda for 2009 to start working on some idiotic exit strategies for me to transfer idiotic knowledge to the new idiot and team of idiots to run the event for those who are willing to risk it and attend. Hey, this is starting to shape up. Idiots helping idiots to push them just hard enough to make smart decisions. I like it. Hahahahaha.

[ByronRACE]

Since we're on the topic, I'm curious why this event require the selfless donation of volunteers to run it?

Have you considered funding it a little more solidly so you can afford to do things like hire help? I personally wouldn't care if the event was $600-$1000 and managed by a for-profit endeavor. You don't seem to have a problem with attendance and a customer base that can afford it. It seems to me that a move like this wouldn't be a big deal and takes the burden off your shoulders while at the same time allowing for a few frills like a bit more friendly handling of scheduling changes or slot ownership issues. If you're trying to be the nice guy and save us money while at the same time making yourself suffer through it every year, I don't see why; you should get to enjoy the event as well and if it means you have to charge more...then charge more. It's far better than being miserable.

By the way, I'd be happy to donate to Club Cobra if they removed all the banner ads. It's one or the other, in my book. I wouldn't pay for Comcast Cable if they flashed banner ads on the screen during my movies, nor would I pay for phone service if they played an advertisement instead of a ring signal while I'm waiting for a call to connect...the same logic applies here. It's a matter of principle. I find ads flashing in my face very objectionable.

[Ibr8k4vetts]

Originally Posted by ByronRACE

By the way, I'd be happy to donate to Club Cobra if they removed all the banner ads. It's one or the other, in my book. I wouldn't pay for Comcast Cable if they flashed banner ads on the screen during my movies, nor would I pay for phone service if they played an advertisement instead of a ring signal while I'm waiting for a call to connect...the same logic applies here. It's a matter of principle. I find ads flashing in my face very objectionable.

What do you think they play EVERY 15 minutes during your movie? and you still play them!

[ByronRACE]

Originally Posted by Ibr8k4vetts

What do you think they play EVERY 15 minutes during your movie? and you still play them!

Incorrect, I do not. If I pay for something, it does not have commercials inserted into the content. I have 30+ HD channels for free on a DB8 antenna that's mounted on a 16ft mast on my roof. They are provided free in exchange for the advertising they support. If If I pay for movies, it's via Netflix, and there's no ads in those. I don't subscribe to television services for the very reasons mentioned; it's absurd.

[jmarsey]

I like where this rant is going. actually interesting. Folks finally dumping on the Cobra Bash. That’s a good thing to explore. Healthy I guess. All we ever hear is how great it is and please, don’t change it, don’t make it another commercial driven event, and keep it just the way it is…intimate, like a family, that’s what keeps it special.

But this is good. We’ve never had a “bash the Bash” discussion and for constructive reasons, certainly. So if you’re going to rip it, than rip it. But first I think you should understand what the Cobra Bash is and why it’s organized the way it is. That would require asking some questions first. I would not want anyone to end up looking foolish. Just a suggestion for those who may want to jump on this bandwagon.

Take care

[ByronRACE]

If you're referring to my post, it's neither a rant, nor a bash and it starts with a question.

I don't require a reply; I meant it as merely a suggestion. If you take offense, just ignore it...it's not an attack.