Misconceptions

[jhv48]

If you want to really be factually correct, it's "separating the wheat from the CHAFF."

So if an original cobra is the wheat, you're calling all the rest chaff?
Makes perfect sense to me now.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by jhv48

If you want to really be factually correct, it's "separating the wheat from the CHAFF."

So if an original cobra is the wheat, you're calling all the rest chaff?
Makes perfect sense to me now.

Sorry you are correct. Its Chaff.

As to the second sentence....No, to me Shelby Cobras whether original or continuation are wheat. The rest is chaff.

To you it can be what it is to you. Matters not a wit to me.

[jhv48]

Obviously it does or you wouldn't be so quick to defend your position.

Unless of course you meant it literally. Separating wheat from chaff is to separate the part of the wheat that is valuable from that that is worthless. If that is what you meant, then you're calling all the replicas (other than yours of course) worthless?

I think there might just be a few replica owners that might disagree with you.

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by jhv48

Obviously it does or you wouldn't be so quick to defend your position.

Unless of course you meant it literally. Separating wheat from chaff is to separate the part of the wheat that is valuable from that that is worthless. If that is what you meant, then you're calling all the replicas (other than yours of course) worthless?

I think there might just be a few replica owners that might disagree with you.

This wheat field has already been hoed, the only wheat here is an original 60's cobra, all the rest is chaff including continuations per court ruling by three judges. Evan happens to own a very expensive piece of chaff and that irkes him to no end

[Thor maine]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Sorry you are correct. Its Chaff.

As to the second sentence....No, to me Shelby Cobras whether original or continuation are wheat. The rest is chaff.

To you it can be what it is to you. Matters not a wit to me.

AC-Ford-Shelby Cobra from the 60's is the wheat , all the rest tributes, replicas, continuation, kit cars ect are all the chaff. ( Really cool , fun and in a lot of cases a better performing car than the originals, chaff.)

[REAL 1]

Yes, yes. Of course, of course there are many non Shelby owners that will disagree with me.

Seems like Shelby Continuation owners aren't entitled to their own positions either without being attacked.

To me Shelby Cobras Continuation or original are the wheat. The rest is the Chaff as far as not being genuine Cobras. The chaff may be great cars mechanically and great at copying a Shelby Cobra but they ain't Shelby Cobras. Sorry. That's how I see it and so to the vast majority of Continuation owners. Those that own "chaff" see me as owning more expensive chaff. So I guess to you I own Shelby chaff and you own non Shelby chaff. That's cool.

I'm not irked one bite since I already own a Shelby Cobra. Its those that own a fake of a Shelby Cobra here that appear irked to me because I am saying like I see it.

Actually, if you notice I'm not "defending" my position but I merely stating it. I could got into all the legal and factual arguments that "support" it but won't. Many here won't be able to follow along or pretend not to follow along anyway. Waste of time.

It's right here in black and white. It's another shining example of others here that are attacking my position when I was merely making the point that what is "better" is subjective in many cases and "brand" may be deemed to make something better for intangible reasons to that person.

Hey, Joe, what do you own again? You didn't say. Pics please.

[Thor maine]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Yes, yes. Of course, of course there are many non Shelby owners that will disagree with me.

Seems like Shelby Continuation owners aren't entitled to their own positions either without being attacked.

To me Shelby Cobras Continuation or original are the wheat. The rest is the Chaff as far as not being genuine Cobras. The chaff may be great cars mechanically and great at copying a Shelby Cobra but they ain't Shelby Cobras. Sorry. That's how I see it and so to the vast majority of Continuation owners. Those that own "chaff" see me as owning more expensive chaff. So I guess to you I own Shelby chaff and you own non Shelby chaff. That's cool.

I'm not irked one bite since I already own a Shelby Cobra. Its those that own a fake of a Shelby Cobra here that appear irked to me because I am saying like I see it.

Actually, if you notice I'm not "defending" my position but I merely stating it. I could got into all the legal and factual arguments that "support" it but won't. Many here won't be able to follow along or pretend not to follow along anyway. Waste of time.

It's right here in black and white. It's another shining example of others here that are attacking my position when I was merely making the point that what is "better" is subjective in many cases and "brand" may be deemed to make something better for intangible reasons to that person.

Hey, Joe, what do you own again? You didn't say. Pics please.

So Evan does the current incarnation of AC Cars LTD Heritage and their COBRA , is that the same chaff as the current incarnation of Shelby American and their COBRA??? Or are they both the wheat???

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

So Evan does the current incarnation of AC Cars LTD Heritage and their COBRA , is that the same chaff as the current incarnation of Shelby American and their COBRA??? Or are they both the wheat???

Don't know enough about them to form an opinion.

[mikeinatlanta]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Don't know enough about them to form an opinion.

Of all the many posts and rants, this one made me spew my drink onto the keyboard. You should be a comedian.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

So Evan does the current incarnation of AC Cars LTD Heritage and their COBRA , is that the same chaff as the current incarnation of Shelby American and their COBRA??? Or are they both the wheat???

Yes it seems that's the current name. The "AC" name and Company has gone through more changes and ownership then I have hair on my head. AC originally also used many subcontractors the form panels such as Radford. How much of the original AC equipment jigs and tooling is currently being used by the current iteration of "AC".? You tell me then we'll both know.

Just curious, are the new ACs real Cobras or just "replica" chaff? Please enlighten me.

Maybe after "Mikeinatlanta" cleans up his key board he can chime is on this little question.

[Thor maine]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Yes it seems that's the current name. The "AC" name and Company has gone through more changes and ownership then I have hair on my head. AC originally also used many subcontractors the form panels such as Radford. How much of the original AC equipment jigs and tooling is currently being used by the current iteration of "AC".? You tell me then we'll both know.

Just curious, are the new ACs real Cobras or just "replica" chaff? Please enlighten me.

Maybe after "Mikeinatlanta" cleans up his key board he can chime is on this little question.

Yes AC Cars LTD has changed owners, yes AC Cars LTD has not been in operation continuously since the 1960's, yes AC Cars LTD is not in the same location and probably uses no tooling from the 1960's, Yes AC Cars Ltd probably does not have a single person who worked for them in the 1960's working for them today, all true. But all that was just said can be said exactly the same about Shelby American, they started making replica's using a continuation of the CSX---- serial numbers, AC Cars LTD started making replica's with the COB---- and COX---- serial numbers. All of this should or will be in your precious Shelby bible. So are the current AC's like your name "Real-ONES" , are they the wheat or the chaff??? And since they are the real deal how does it sit with you , or how do you deal with Real AC's (COB- COX) coming from the factory (something Shelby American cannot do) with a GM LS engine??? And That AC Cars LTD in the 1960's sold from the factory at least two cars with GM engines???? How does that turn your Blue Oval only in a Cobra cream of wheat???