Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

[Nedsel]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

But its the same in one major and crucial way. Its a Shelby Cobra.

It comes down to respect. Give it to get it.

Evan, as I have said repeatedly, I have nothing against the current crop of Shelby Cobras. I simply prefer the historic cars to the newer replicas. That is my right. Now, if you desire to start up the argument over how biased I am, go ahead. Forgive me if I don't respond.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

I simply prefer the historic cars to the newer replicas. That is my right.

That's how I feel.

Also, for ERANJ's benefit, since he joined us late, and who seems like a really nice person, I wanted to catch him/her up on the list of analogies we've attempted to use over the last 50+ pages in order to describe and compare the Shelby Cobra replica to 1 of the genuine 998:

a) The Present-day Auto Manufacturer (Challenger, Ferrari, etc.) Analogy
b) The Mona Lisa by da Vinci Analogy
c) The Rolex Watch Analogy
d) The Dolly The Sheep Cloning Analogy
e) The Seafaring Vessel (row boats and dingees) Analogy
f) The Tribute Band Analogy (Van Halen, Journey)
g) The Indian Motorcycle Analogy
h) The 6 LW Jaguars built by Jaguar Analogy

I may have missed a few, but that's a solid list.

And I'm still voting for "d."

Producing anything 30-50 years later is a replicating or cloning process. And if something is replicated or cloned, then it simply can't be genuine or authentic. Which brings me back to Evan's license plate, which is "Real427." While he does have an original 427 side oiler, the car itself is a replica. Call it a true replica, whatever that means. To me, it's still a replica.

[ERANJ]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

That's how I feel.

Also, for ERANJ's benefit, since he joined us late, and who seems like a really nice person, I wanted to catch him/her up on the list of analogies we've attempted to use over the last 50+ pages in order to describe and compare the Shelby Cobra replica to 1 of the genuine 998:

a) The Present-day Auto Manufacturer (Challenger, Ferrari, etc.) Analogy
b) The Mona Lisa by da Vinci Analogy
c) The Rolex Watch Analogy
d) The Dolly The Sheep Cloning Analogy
e) The Seafaring Vessel (row boats and dingees) Analogy
f) The Tribute Band Analogy (Van Halen, Journey)
g) The Indian Motorcycle Analogy
h) The 6 LW Jaguars built by Jaguar Analogy

I may have missed a few, but that's a solid list.

And I'm still voting for "d."

Producing anything 30-50 years later is a replicating or cloning process. And if something is replicated or cloned, then it simply can't be genuine or authentic. Which brings me back to Evan's license plate, which is "Real427." While he does have an original 427 side oiler, the car itself is a replica. Call it a true replica, whatever that means. To me, it's still a replica.

RK thank you for the comment firstly.

You actually missed one though What about the restoration parts that are manufactured by new suppliers other than GM labeled on the box as Genuine GM parts. The point being it's all about licensing which Shelby holds? I sincerely believe that if we are simply stating that CSX4000s are a Shelby Cobra (forget about all the terms in between) than Evan car is a real Shelby Cobra and the license term is accurate. Whatelse is a CSX4000 car a real....replica?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by ERANJ

RK thank you for the comment firstly.

You actually missed one though What about the restoration parts that are manufactured by new suppliers other than GM labeled on the box as Genuine GM parts. The point being it's all about licensing which Shelby holds? I sincerely believe that if we are simply stating that CSX4000s are a Shelby Cobra (forget about all the terms in between) than Evan car is a real Shelby Cobra and the license term is accurate. Whatelse is a CSX4000 car a real....replica?

Well, you know where my vote goes. To me, the only real, genuine or authentic Shelby Cobras are the 998. Everything after that is a copy. And for the most part, they're not even that authentic, since the most parts are different.

Even the next generation of the CSX3000 series cars, called "Competition Series" (and I call the "Resurrection Series"), which will use nearly all OEM and some reproduction parts, along with Fran Kress' (not OEM Halibrand) magnesium wheels, are copies of the genuine 998. The 6 LW Jaguars are just copies of the 1960's series.

The debate will rage on forever.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

Evan, as I have said repeatedly, I have nothing against the current crop of Shelby Cobras. I simply prefer the historic cars to the newer replicas. That is my right. Now, if you desire to start up the argument over how biased I am, go ahead. Forgive me if I don't respond.

Ned no problem. That is certainly your right. Just so that you know, I have nothing against the original historic Cobras. . And of course I understand your use of the word "replica" as defined by Webster's as recounted in the Registry.

If so, I think you and I are good.