Cammer parts.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Detroit Bill

A.) The internet is a marketing tool for him not a font of knowledge. He is the one with the experience which is where knowledge comes from. I'll repeat this is a person who has built thousands of motors. He has had motors fail, he has had thousands on the dyno he has seen it all. It is a total insult for you suggest you have an opinion on an engine to him, he has literally forgot more then you now know or will ever know.
B.) The internet is a marketing tool. Do you thinking he is trying to figure out how to build a successful engine from your brilliant posts. The internet is a circle. Research something and if you read long enough you will find people that say it is the greatest thing ever and people that say is it an absolute piece of crap.
C.) How was he to know the chain would fail. Are 100% of Coon heads faulty in your check writing experience? What is the failure rate, how many were made, how many have you used, how many have failed on you. None because you have no experience other than reading internet BS with no way to know what is in fact true and proven. By the way I see the dye test on the head. Is that an acceptable level of porosity? I don't know, do you? Are you certified to use the equipment and read the results, no? Does every engine builder check every part, is the average consumer willing to pay for that?
D.) Apparently that is a fact but we don't know why the chain failed.
E.) Who said he would not honor the warranty? Damage is so busy throwing leaves up in the air it is not clear what he wants. One thing is clear you take Damages word as gospel based on what? I have no idea. He strikes me as an erratic person. Keith on the other hand has been around and supported this community for years with a very good track record.

I suggest you keep shaking your pom pom's. I am trying to suggest that the public lynching you feel is warranted is based on flimsy evidence. And if we were going to call experts to the trial you would have a hard time finding someone more expert than the guy you are trying to hang.

I don't know Keith Craft from Adam but the premise here is ludicrous. Did Keith handle this perfectly, likely not perfect.
BUT he really has said very little. You have heard one side of the story which is the definition of a lynching, mob justice.

The Internet is a "fountain of knowledge" too, do you disagree? It's not just for marketing. If you bothered to read Jay Brown's postings over the years on his own FEPower forum, as well as the FE Forum, anyone, including the engine builder, would have realized there were problems with those parts. Jay Brown is an expert as are many who write on those forums are. BTW, Jay Brown wrote a couple books, which I've actually purchased.

There are postings from the engine builder in the FE Forums at the time there were problems with these SOHC parts.


The chain drives were defective and the failure rate of the Coon heads may not have been 100%, but the defective rate was high. Would you still install parts with a 50% +/- failure rate? I wouldn't.

You haven't read Damage's threads at all. He has made clear what he wants in emails and phone calls to the engine builder. You refuse to read or just ignore it.

40 miles for $60,000. Personally, I don't care if the engine builder built a successful company or even if donates to charities, he built an engine with defective parts, sold it and is not honoring the warranty.

Again, the engine builder was aware that Coon heads had many issues, including porosity problems, and the chain drives had a significant failure rate dating back to 2010. As I said before, the engine builder must have ignored the information.

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

The Internet is a "fountain of knowledge" too, do you disagree? It's not just for marketing. If you bothered to read Jay Brown's postings over the years on his own FEPower forum, as well as the FE Forum, anyone, including the engine builder, would have realized there were problems with those parts. Jay Brown is an expert as are many who write on those forums are. BTW, Jay Brown wrote a couple books, which I've actually purchased.

There are postings from the engine builder in the FE Forums at the time there were problems with these SOHC parts.


The chain drives were defective and the failure rate of the Coon heads may not have been 100%, but the defective rate was high. Would you still install parts with a 50% +/- failure rate? I wouldn't.

You haven't read Damage's threads at all. He has made clear what he wants in emails and phone calls to the engine builder. You refuse to read or just ignore it.

40 miles for $60,000. Personally, I don't care if the engine builder built a successful company or even if donates to charities, he built an engine with defective parts, sold it and is not honoring the warranty.

Again, the engine builder was aware that Coon heads had many issues, including porosity problems, and the chain drives had a significant failure rate dating back to 2010. As I said before, the engine builder must have ignored the information.

I read Damages build thread and this thread in its entirety today so it is fresh in my mind.

He did not post the emails so I don't know what he did or didn't ask for or when he actually sent them. You again have taken his word on what he sent, when and made many assumptions.

Who said he is not honoring the warranty. He asked for a list of parts and Damage said he sent them. What was on this list? Do you know? Was it reasonable? Was in complete, was it understandable, from the list was Keith able to tell something that Damage did not say? I don't know and neither do you.

Anyhow I am bored with the back and forth. Obviously neither one of us is going to change the others opinion. Although a few people have taken my side and none has taken yours.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Detroit Bill

Anyhow I am bored with the back and forth. Obviously neither one of us is going to change the others opinion. Although a few people have taken my side and none has taken yours.

I don't need others to agree with me for validation. That's not how I'm built.

Here's another example. Let's say you walked into a dealership in the last few years and bought a brand new car. For this example we'll say it's a Honda. A very reliable car, which I didn't build and for which I just wrote a check. I know nothing about cars, but some time later, the air bags when inflated threw metal objects at the occupant(s). We'll call the air bag manufacturer Takata.

Putting aside the fact that manufacturers likely knew of the problem prior to the sale to a consumer, do you think someone should fix the car? Or after 39 miles, the warranty is void? And as a consumer, who just wrote a check for the Honda with the defective airbag and doesn't know a thing about building it, do you think I'm owed some sort of restitution even though I'm not a car builder?

Now granted, a Cammer is not a Honda engine, but not only is my engine still running, there are quite a few members here with "race" engines that are still running, including Rodney's dual Paxton supercharged FE. Built by the same engine builder as my engine BTW.

40 miles is a bad joke IMO.