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12-08-2010, 02:39 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Sun City West,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Originally Posted by FredBMOC
Tin-man, Beautiful car!
Just a little note to say that Backdraft here in FL (Speed Fanatix) tries to deliver cars with 125 miles on the clock to catch some of the inevitable things that go wrong with these cars in their first miles: bolts that loosen, carbs and EFIs that go out of tune, exhaust manifolds that loosen up, light bulbs that fall out, etc. These cars are not mass produced and are all a little bit different so they take the time to find some of their unique niggles before the owner takes delivery. I'd suggest you try to get them to do the same for you as they know what these cars should feel like and will be better able to spot things that need tightening/readjusting.
I am sure they also love to flog someone else's car
Good luck with the beast!
btw: my brother and family have been leaving in Shanghai for the past year and are scheduled to spend one more before deciding if they come back stateside but they love their life in China: they are making a lot more $$$, get a nice signing bonus every time they renew their contract, get company paid driver, cook, maid and all living and children education expenses paid by their company. Not a bad deal at all... 
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Fred, I appreciate the kind words and thank you for the inside info on the 125 mile routine, I will push for this. Yep, doing business in China has its rewards ok but its not a normal life and we get to miss all the things that you guys take for granted, all in the quest for money.  Is it worth it, well each to their own, I guess, but I have been away from "home" too long: 25 over years and its gettin' time. Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man 
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12-24-2010, 03:04 PM
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Keep the faith, no excuse not having the car done months ago in my opinion. Somebody/Everybody is dropping the ball on this one.
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12-24-2010, 03:18 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Sun City West,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Originally Posted by madmaxx
Keep the faith, no excuse not having the car done months ago in my opinion. Somebody/Everybody is dropping the ball on this one.
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alas, madmaxx its one of the downsides of being an expat and working in China, can't do it myself and must rely on others, lesson learned. But on a brighter note, I've waited a long time for this dream to transition into a reality so a couple of more months will just have to get sucked up and then its all mine.   
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12-24-2010, 06:29 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4000; Shelby aluminum FE with 58mm IDAs
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The delays and waiting are frustrating, I'm sure.
Any way you can get your $125k back? You could get a Kirkham with a nice Shelby FE with stack injection--from Gessford or Barry R.--for less money (with plenty of dough left over to buy an extra set of rims with Billboards or Avons). 
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12-27-2010, 10:29 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Sun City West,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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The delays and waiting are frustrating, I'm sure.
Any way you can get your $125k back? You could get a Kirkham with a nice Shelby FE with stack injection--from Gessford or Barry R.--for less money (with plenty of dough left over to buy an extra set of rims with Billboards or Avons). 
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Nope, can't do that since the money has long gone by now. My only consolation is I know at some point in time I'll be the owner of my own Cobra and hopefully a happy camper. I have even installed a four post lift today in anticipation of the event. Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man
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12-28-2010, 06:20 AM
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I have even installed a four post lift today in anticipation of the event. Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man
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The four-post lift will come in very handy--that's a good investment.
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01-01-2011, 11:39 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Sun City West,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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[quote=tin-man;1099074]Nope, can't do that since the money has long gone by now.
Boy, is that the truth, I checked my bank records on the money transfer to Roush and they received the final payment for the engine-tranny combo on August 31, 2010, and four months on I am still waiting for two parts to complete the assemby and finish the install. Just don't seem right, even after several calls from Eric of Voss Performance to Roush and several emails from me to Mark at the Roush engine build facility. I am fearful this has all the makings of a really bad omen given the original build time for the engine was extended by four months due to vendor issues with some of the part tolerances.
Being a manufacturing guy I can understand how these tolerances issues can surface, but to have missed out packing and sending the two spacer plates that are required for the engine-tranny hook-up is arguably the result of some serious infrastructure check-off protocols not being applied during the final packing and shipping stages of the entire sales transaction.
Kinda makes me wonder what else is missing, huh? that said, I guess I can be forgiving when I drive the Cobra and the engine performs well, but bein' out of pocket US$50+large and not being able to even start the engine is causing me a lot of "angst" and I am desperatly trying to keep the notion of a **** storm of biblical proportions from brewing, but its hard knowing I placed the order with Roush in January of 2010 and the transaction has yet to close, one year later.
I guess the term Caveat Emptor is appropriate for all you newbies who are considering getting a Roush engine and I am really sorry to have to say that, but my experience compels me to pass on the advice. 
tin-man
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01-01-2011, 02:46 PM
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Dont get all down and out because aholes like me shoot off at the mouth about how everyone is an idiot. In the end you will have a beast of a cobra!!!!
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01-01-2011, 04:56 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Arkadelphia, AR,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 brushed aluminum with Keith Craft 527C.I. all aluminum FE
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Sure seems like a long time to waite for your engine. I wonder why the parts needed can not be gotten somewhere else so that the car can be finished. How does it take 4 months to get a couple of small parts to finish the project. It really does sound like they are giving you the run around. Hope that they get you the parts soon.
From the calls I have been getting and what I have seen Roush has had some problems with delivery times and most say that their prices are way to high. If you paid that much for your engine you should have been top on the list in making sure all went well.
Good luck, Keith
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01-01-2011, 09:37 PM
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You could always find out what parts they are missing, source them yourself, and overnight them to the shop.
Seriously, whew. I've had to wait for parts before too. But, this just doesn't sound right. There may be a back story with your build. Maybe, they are finding a way to get you some more power, or they found an error and had to start from scratch. Maybe it broke on the dyno and they had to build a new one.
Feel for you no matter what. Hopefully, it will be a great build no mater what.
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01-01-2011, 11:30 PM
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Location: Tucson,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CCX-3-3624, 351w, 5-speed
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Hang in there John. You have way more patience than I would ever have, but you are going to have a great car when all is said and done. I remember the first time I saw my car in person, it was so surreal. So are you back in Phoenix yet?
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01-02-2011, 09:08 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPO 2715
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Tin,
Congrats on your build! This is the time period that can be stressful, believe me I know I currently own my 3rd SPF.
I agree with the Avons for your car. I have had different brands of tires on other SPFs, and found these to have a much superior grip in all aspects. The other posts above about getting the power to the ground are correct. In the past I could 360, or roast the tires at will, with a much smaller motor than you have.
On the Roush vs Kieth Craft issue I have other thoughts.
My build Great Asp's Superformance - FE Build is similar to yours. The Roush selection is easy, especially if you have ever been to Roush's facility (I have 3 times), or seen their marketing. I selected Kieth Craft as he could build exactly what I wanted, even using the components I wanted. I really loved the personal side of my build at Kieth's place. Two different ways of marketing. I'm sure your 511 will serve you well, and I hope it does.
Keep posting the pics and toss in a dyno vid (pleeeeeaaaasssseeeeee)
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01-02-2011, 12:08 PM
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Location: Sun City West,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Tin,
Congrats on your build! This is the time period that can be stressful, believe me I know I currently own my 3rd SPF.
I agree with the Avons for your car. I have had different brands of tires on other SPFs, and found these to have a much superior grip in all aspects. The other posts above about getting the power to the ground are correct. In the past I could 360, or roast the tires at will, with a much smaller motor than you have.
On the Roush vs Kieth Craft issue I have other thoughts.
My build Great Asp's Superformance - FE Build is similar to yours. The Roush selection is easy, especially if you have ever been to Roush's facility (I have 3 times), or seen their marketing. I selected Kieth Craft as he could build exactly what I wanted, even using the components I wanted. I really loved the personal side of my build at Kieth's place. Two different ways of marketing. I'm sure your 511 will serve you well, and I hope it does.
Keep posting the pics and toss in a dyno vid (pleeeeeaaaasssseeeeee)
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GA, thanks for the words of encouragement, I know Avons are in my future and will make the switch after I have had some quality time driving on the Mickey T's,. I will be in transit back to China tomorrow and will post several of the pictures of the install that I took when in California.
Regarding the dyno test results I would dealy love to upload the specs and the video of the engine being put thru its paces at Roush, its awesome, the sound is unbelieveable but I do not have a clue on how to upload a large MB base file to the Club Cobra, is there anyone out there that can advise me? Remember I do not have access to You Tube in China since it banned by the Sphincter Police so that cannot be part of the solution.
GA if you send me your regular email address via PM I can send the video to you........
Cheers, John, AKA tin-man
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01-02-2011, 12:52 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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is there anyone out there that can advise me?
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Of course there is. I've sent you a PM.
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01-02-2011, 06:41 PM
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Here's a Video of Tin-man's Engine
Tin-man's engine vid is available by clicking Tin-man Video
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01-02-2011, 12:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Hang in there John. You have way more patience than I would ever have, but you are going to have a great car when all is said and done. I remember the first time I saw my car in person, it was so surreal. So are you back in Phoenix yet?
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Just passin' thru and will be China bound tomorrow. I'll be back within a couple of months to get my car and get it registered here in Phoenix at which time we'll do the lunch I promised the Arizona Club members. Hope to see you at that time.
Cheers, John AKA, tin-man
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01-16-2011, 11:00 AM
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Ultra cool, thanks for sharing!!!
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01-16-2011, 05:54 PM
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I spot 5 too many of those little wheelie thingy majiggers on that belt 
I think tin-man has every available option on the motor and roller.
Tin Man, when your done, post a little video of that beast so we all can see!
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01-16-2011, 08:05 PM
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No sir.....
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I spot 5 too many of those little wheelie thingy majiggers on that belt 
I think tin-man has every available option on the motor and roller.
Tin Man, when your done, post a little video of that beast so we all can see!
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just power steering and power breaks, no aircon, who needs aircon in Arizona? All those thingies are to sort out the tension in the belts.  I hear ya on the vid, when its done and that's a big when, I will surely do that. Cheers, tin-man 
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01-27-2011, 02:24 AM
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Finally got the spacer from Bowler
Yahooooo, now maybe we can get traction under this car and get the install in high gear, puns notwithstanding.  John, AKA, tin-man
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