Roush Engine Failure – Pictures

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Did you drop the oil pan and retorque the rods? What about the flywheel bolts?

Yes, but since I was very lazy that day, I used my powers of x-ray vision and mental telepathy to check those.

I'll quote myself. "I'm more anal than most." And this beauty. "Don't check your hydraulic roller cam, no skin off my back. I don't care."

I'm sure none of this applies to 428's anyway.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I'm sure none of this applies to 428's anyway.

Seriously, I had a prettly lengthy discussion on this subject with my engine builder when he finished my build for me. He was adamant on not retorquing the heads, but did want the intake manifold retorqued after 400 miles. A couple of other things as well.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Seriously, I had a prettly lengthy discussion on this subject with my engine builder when he finished my build for me. He was adamant on not retorquing the heads, but did want the intake manifold retorqued after 400 miles. A couple of other things as well.

Every builder is different. My engine builder retorqued the heads, but we're talking about the valvetrain here. We're not really discussing the heads, intake, oil pan or headers.

Aluminum heads and block may be different than your setup, because of thermal expansion.

Anyway, you know I drive my cars hard.

I can only aspire to a mileage figure of 2,300 miles. Man, that sounds like years away for me.

[patrickt]

Not driving a car is harder on it than driving it. I'll go one step further, no one in the history of the world has ever been instructed by his engine builder to retorque his valve train. Never, ever, no how, no way. Nada.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I'll go one step further, no one in the history of the world has ever been instructed by his engine builder to retorque his valve train. Never, ever, no how, no way. Nada.

So to use percentages, as you classically do, you mean 100% of the engine builders.

I must be special then and you're wrong. Because my engine builder did it and he instructed me that he was going to do it.

I protested and said NO WAY! But relented, when I found out he was only trying to amortize the cost of his new torque wrench by charging me extra.

[csx4910]

Where do I start with what it needs in 2300 miles? In short it SHOULD'NT need much but in my first 750 miles on my Roush 511 csx was in the shop 8 times for a total of 8 months, all Roush related problems. (1 time was the 4 1/2 months when the motor was shipped back to Roush) It had 5 oil changes for various reasons and just about everything that could go wrong went wrong with it.

Others have been without their Roush motor for months as well fighting with them about warranty work. I will NEVER buy another Roush product again. Maybe Keith Craft will take my 511 in on trade for his Alum 427 SOHC motor

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by csx4910

Maybe Keith Craft will take my 511 in on trade for his Alum 427 SOHC motor

Now we're talking.

I like your thought process. Much like mine.

[Rawkkrawler]

Wanted to add my rocker shaft experience....

How about a Comp Cam shaft? Broke one on each side! They charged me for the first and sent the second one for free. Happened within 100 miles of each other. Of course they said it was the first one they ever saw break...sure.