Coyote 5.0L...thoughts?

fordracing65 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-08-2012, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WardL

Someday I hope to trade in my Roush Cobra on a Coyote Cobra. I think the Coyote is a great engine. I am realizing I will probably never feel comfortable with the 518 HP Roush 427 and sure I'm not going to feel underpowered in a a 450 HP Coyote Cobra.

Your car is set up for the swap as it sits, that coyote will drop right in, I bet you could sell your engine in there now for almost what a coyote swap would cost, it would be an even trade, go for it, I had a superformance with a mod in it, you will love it, get the 6 speed, it fits right in also, no modification needed.

REAL 1 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-08-2012, 09:27 AM

The new 5.0 is a stellar engine. If you can get the 5.0 with track key technology you can have you cake and eat it too as far as ease of maintenence, track readiness and lopy sound. It will never match the torque or hp from even a good 351W which can be built up to crazy power levels.

In a Cobra, however, (and this is for me and my personal tastes and MHO only) the idea is to recreate what the beast was as close as possible. A new 5.0 takes you as far away from that as would installing the warp drive from the Millenum Falcon (almost

). I think the new 5.0 with track key technology would make for steller track car all things considered though but so would a good 351W or well built BB. I would hesitate to use an original 427SO for track work though. The expense of these blocks and relative rarity would make me hesitate.

But some guys like to build the car to suit their own tastes and likes. Thats what make the hobby interesting.

blykins · #3 (**permalink**) 02-08-2012, 09:46 AM

So what appeals to you guys the most about this engine? Is it just that it's something different?

It's always nice to know the viewpoints of engine customers...

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Dimis · #5 (**permalink**) 02-08-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blykins

So what appeals to you guys the most about this engine? Is it just that it's something different?

It's always nice to know the viewpoints of engine customers...

Hi Brent,

Initially I was drawn to the Coyote b/c of these following reasons:

1) It is Emissions compliant with our governing authorities.
An FE isn't... thus I asked myself what's the next best?

At the moment, IMHO I'm left with Coyote or LS7 (maybe Toyota)... Unless you can advise of another V8?

2) Powerful enough, yet bullet proof, with heaps of potential should I need the "upgrade". I understand that you can get it to (& I'm no expert on this) 5.8lts quite comfortably, which again for 99% of driving is more than enough.

3) It's light weight, modern engine package, making it a balanced & theoretically well handling car, even a nun could drive it, and I'd get plenty more miles to the gallon.
It's nice if you can afford to wipe your a$$ with $100 dollar bills when you go to the toilet or gas station, but it's also nice knowing you don't have too or need too

4) It is a Ford and thus of the correct manufacturer - my logic is if you could justify a SBF Windsor, then the Coyote is just as "pertinent" & "viable" (unless its a 289 or FIA), others may differ.

5) Has plenty of available parts & a growing aftermarket following. Further it could thus be serviced by any monkey dealership if I so chose or if I encountered a tech problem that I couldn't or didn't have the time, or skill, or tools to resolve.

6) I'd be confident it wouldn't leak, pop a rod, chew a gasket, or other, even if I left it siting in the garage over winter for 6months. & would/should start first kick despite this.

7) The engine would outlast the car, many times over.

I guess in a word it can be summarized for me as "Evolution"

Now that is simply my version, & given free reign and any choice of engine an FE for a SC 427 it would be.
EFI or Carb'ed... Now I'm still wrestling with that one.

I can justify the billet suspension in a Kirkham as a "quality improvement", why not EFI?

Kindest regards,

blykins · #6 (**permalink**) 02-08-2012, 07:14 PM

I'm sure #1 is certainly a big plus for you guys on the other side of the planet....

fordracing65 · #7 (**permalink**) 02-08-2012, 08:26 PM

Dimis, I would pick the Ls motor over the coyote anytime, even if its a chevy, the z06 is a get up and go car, not much can touch it, just my opinion. Its one of my all time favorite engines.

RACER X #99 · #8 (**permalink**) 02-08-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fordracing65

Dimis, I would pick the Ls motor over the coyote anytime, even if its a chevy, the z06 is a get up and go car, not much can touch it, just my opinion. Its one of my all time favorite engines.

I'd like to see what the LS could do with only 302 cubes.

Never mind,

The brand X boys got their asses handed to them at the Rolex 24 hrs.

Now back to the talk about antique push rod moders.

eschaider · #9 (**permalink**) 02-12-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimis

Hi Brent,

Initially I was drawn to the Coyote b/c of these following reasons:

1) It is Emissions compliant with our governing authorities.
An FE isn't... thus I asked myself what's the next best?

At the moment, IMHO I'm left with Coyote or LS7 (maybe Toyota)... Unless you can advise of another V8?

2) Powerful enough, yet bullet proof, with heaps of potential should I need the "upgrade". I understand that you can get it to (& I'm no expert on this) 5.8lts quite comfortably, which again for 99% of driving is more than enough.

3) It's light weight, modern engine package, making it a balanced & theoretically well handling car, even a nun could drive it, and I'd get plenty more miles to the gallon.
It's nice if you can afford to wipe your a$$ with $100 dollar bills when you go to the toilet or gas station, but it's also nice knowing you don't have too or need too

4) It is a Ford and thus of the correct manufacturer - my logic is if you could justify a SBF Windsor, then the Coyote is just as "pertinent" & "viable" (unless its a 289 or FIA), others may differ.

5) Has plenty of available parts & a growing aftermarket following. Further it could thus be serviced by any monkey dealership if I so chose or if I encountered a tech problem that I couldn't or didn't have the time, or skill, or tools to resolve.

6) I'd be confident it wouldn't leak, pop a rod, chew a gasket, or other, even if I left it siting in the garage over winter for 6months. & would/should start first kick despite this.

7) The engine would outlast the car, many times over.

I guess in a word it can be summarized for me as "Evolution"

Now that is simply my version, & given free reign and any choice of engine an FE for a SC 427 it would be.
EFI or Carb'ed... Now I'm still wrestling with that one.

I can justify the billet suspension in a Kirkham as a "quality improvement", why not EFI?

Kindest regards,

I think you are reading the tea leaves exactly correct Dimis! The only thing I would add is the supercharger. Ford already has a supercharged version of the engine available in Australia so parts and dealership familiarity will be a notch better than here in the US.

Take everything you said and add about double the power, maybe a little more, when you supercharge and you have a very enjoyable emissions friendly package. The performance will leave you with a huge smile no matter what gear you're in or rpm your at when you push down on the throttle.

Ed