Excalibur Owners: Please Reply! - Page 3

ohekk · #1 (**permalink**) 02-19-2002, 07:46 AM

Eric,

Indeed...you MAY have located the FIRST Excalibur JAC 427 Cobra
#193

I was told the second Excalibur Cobra was British racing Green

Both were built with a 351

The VIN may be deceptive as there was confusion at the Excalibur plant on the correct assigment of numbers in the early years of the most recent ownership at Excalibur.

Excalibur had 3 distinct owners with the most recent purchasing of the company in 1991.

Cobras were built from 1992-97

The JAC 427 Cobra was "Introduced" Oct 1993.

You are right; the early brochures show a Red Cobra...in fact the earliest brochure I have depicts a car VERY similar to a CR.

When I asked about any connection, The response is :"I don't know anything about that!" Hmmmm???

Several distinct changes were made over the course of production.

Early
Stamped A-Arms
Front Coil springs
15" Wheels
Ford 9'
Deck Mounted Fuel Filler
Bolt on backup lights
Bumperettes
Zippered Tonneau

Later
Tubular A-arms
Coil over shocks
16" wheels
Ford 8.8
Side Markers
Fender Mounted Fuel filler
3rd Brake light
Recessed backup lights
JAC 427 side emblems
Full Bumpers
GM style door handles
Excalibur heat/AC controls
labeled dash switch bezels
Reinforced Windshield posts
Highback seats
Optional Auto trans
Optional Hard top (3 sold)

Update:

Jack Mann in Florida recently sold his Cobra to another gentleman in Florida. (Clubcobra: Cobras for sale)

The "R&D" Cobra previously mentioned was recently sold and purchased by a gentleman here in the Milwaukee area. (He now has TWO!)

I believe I've located the LAST (completed) Cobra from the assembly line..

as well as LAST (uncompleted) Cobra from the assembly line,(after it was shut down) purchased locally, completed and presently for sale.

As mentioned earlier, the Excalibur plant is closed & for the most part cleaned out and empty.

Molds for both the Excalibur & Cobra as well as some of the fixtures are still there.(Some parts also)

The building is for sale

Gentlemen, I believe we own a piece of Automotive history
given the fact that Excalibur was identifed as a World Manufacturer by the Society of Automotive Engineers (S.A.E.)
that manufactured a limited production , turnkey, DOT approved and EPA compliant automobile sold with a 2 year Bumper to Bumper Warranty'.

Thanks everyone!
Keep looking...there's some yet unaccounted.

Tom

#2 (**permalink**) 02-19-2002, 08:28 AM

HEY GUYS,

I COULD SURE USE SOME HELP HERE.

I'M TRYING TO GET MY CARS BACK INTO SHAPE AND ON THE ROAD AFTER THE EXPPLOSION AND FIRE AT MY HOME LAST FALL. I'M TRYING TO GET ALL OF THE MECHANICAL "STUFF" DONE BEFORE SENDING THEM TO THE PAINT SHOP.

I'M GOING TO BE WORKING WITH MY MECHANIC ON THURSDAY - THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW - ON THE FRONT SUSPENSION.

DOES ANYONE HAVE THE FRONT END SPECS. MY CAR IS NUMBER SM 123070. ANY HELP WOULD SURE BE APPRECIATED.

ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE RECENTLY NOTICED A "THUMPING SOUND" (THERE'S A TECHNICAL TERM FOR YOU), THAT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE SPEED OF THE CAR. I SAY SOUND BECAUSE IT IS NOT A VIBRATION. ALSO, BETWEEN 65 & 70 MPH THERE IS A "SHAKING" OF THE STEERING WHEEL WITH "VERY" SLIGHT VIBRATION IN THE WHEEL WHICH DISAPPEARS WITH ANY AMOUNT OF HAND PRESSURE ON THE WHEEL.

ANY THOUGHTS ON THE ABOVE WOULD SURELY BE APPRECIATED.

ESPECIALLY THE FRONT END ALIGNMENT SPECS AND ANY INFO ON THE ORIGIN OF THE FRONT SUSPENSION & STEERING.

THANKS, AND Y'ALL HAVE A REALLY GREAT DAY,

BLACKJACK

cobraeric · #3 (**permalink**) 02-20-2002, 03:11 AM

Hi Blackjack

I have VIN# SM123074 and the Specs of my car are just about identical to yours.

Since these cars seem to have a Mustang II compatible front end (I'd like to know who the supplier is, just in case they have to be replaced some day....) I use an alignment I found on a "Classic Roadsters" thread:

caster:3.75° +/- 0.5°
camber:3/8 degree +/- 1/8 degree
toe in: 0.03 to 0.06 (1/32in to 2/32in)

works just fine at all speed ranges.

Eric

#4 (**permalink**) 02-20-2002, 05:16 PM

HELLO ERIC,

THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE INFO. I'LL USE YOUR NUMBERS TOMORROW WHEN I GET IT INTO THE SHOP.

THANKS, AGAIN AND Y'ALL HAVE A REALLY GREAT DAY,

BLACKJACK

Aloys · #5 (**permalink**) 04-18-2002, 11:14 AM

VIN 123124
Build March 1998
green
Compomotive
5.0l HO
Ownwer:U.D.- Germany

computerworks · #6 (**permalink**) 04-29-2002, 06:53 PM

On eBay, an original Excalibur Dealer poster -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1097357118

cobraeric · #7 (**permalink**) 05-07-2002, 03:29 PM

Tom,

I tracked down 2 more cars:

#078:
owner: Frank Kutscher, Germany
first titled 1999
first owner was Jens Geitlinger's brother in law
black
red interior, black carpet
Ford 302 EFI
manual T5
16" Compomotiv wheels with 245 front and 255 rear tires
7000 km / 4375 mls
9" rear, slip diff
3rd Brakelight
polished front brake calipers
a/c
car is for sale

#RM123011
owner: Arndt Jr. (Arndt-Tuning), Germany
bronze-silver
Ford 302 EFI
4000 km

btw, #124 ex U.D. is now for sale at a Dealer, to see the pics:
www.cobra-classics.de klick on "Angebot", scroll1/2 down till you find the car and then klick on "Bild Laden"

Eric

ohekk · #8 (**permalink**) 12-22-2011, 10:15 AM

I have a few Excalibur posters and literatures for sale.

PM me if interested.

MilwDoug · #9 (**permalink**) 05-13-2002, 08:06 AM

Here's another one for sale in Florida. Looks like one of the last ones built. They sure are pretty aren't they?

http://www.victorycars.com/photos32/Excalibur-Cobra.htm

cobraeric · #10 (**permalink**) 05-13-2002, 03:11 PM

Hey MilwDoug,

guess you found the latest one since! The sticker says #165

BLACKJACK · #11 (**permalink**) 05-13-2002, 04:40 PM

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT THING IS GORGEOUS !!!!

I AM DEFINATELY "NOT" GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE PICTURES ANY MORE.

I MAY BE WRONG BUT THAT PRICE IS AWFULLY HARD TO PASS UP.

THAT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT BUY FOR SOMEBODY. (I AM NOT GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE PICTURES ANYMORE).

IS THAT A REASONABLE "GOING PRICE" OR SHOULD WE EXPECT SOMETHING TO BE WRONG WITH THE CAR ??

I AM DEFINATELY NOT LOOKING AT THOSE PICTURES AGAIN !!!

Y'ALL HAVE A REALLY GREAT DAY,

BLACKJACK

WELL - - - - MAYBE JUST A QUICK PEEK !

BLACKJACK · #12 (**permalink**) 05-13-2002, 04:48 PM

WOW !!!!!

ohekk · #13 (**permalink**) 05-14-2002, 12:08 PM

#071 Blue with white stripes is for sale in Milwaukee, WI
5.0 with NOS.

Really a beautiful car...asking $46K!!!

Also # 004 (Yellow) will be on E-Bay shortly ... was featured on the Excalibur calendar and brochure... and a distinctive history!

Bill Wells · #14 (**permalink**) 05-14-2002, 01:02 PM

serial #4 as referenced by "ohekk" is now on ebay, see item # 1828098798. nicely done write up , 18,700 miles and says 'buy it now at $31,500. listing expires 5-19 unless buy it now price is bid prior . bill wells.

MilwDoug · #15 (**permalink**) 05-14-2002, 03:23 PM

Gentlemen,

Referring to prices, I actually think the $34,500 price for #165 is on the high side. I just don't think there's a big enough following for these cars because there aren't enough of 'em. Maybe that will change over time. But I was sure glad to buy mine for a good price a year & 1/2 ago with only 3,000 miles on the clock.

On another note, the last one made, a 2000 Black one with Mustang SVT Cobra engine in it just got picked up by a neighbor of mine in Mequon (just north of Milwaukee) and the esteemed founder of this thread "oheck" is just 20 miles up the road from me, so I'm thinking of starting an Excalibur "gang". I'm just not sure if it should be an "outlaw gang" or a "yuppie gang".

Any suggestions? We probably need some good colors to wear too.

ohekk · #16 (**permalink**) 05-14-2002, 09:24 PM

Doug,

In fact a fellow Excalibur Cobra owner/friend of mine suggested that also..I'm all for it!

Colors?? hmmm... yours is black...mine is yellow...Hmmmm...

How about Black & Yellow?

As you know that's also the Excalibur cap colors... as seen in the Rhonda Adams calendar...you'll notice it in one of the shots if you can peel your eyes off of Rhonda!

We're pretty fortunate in that there are MANY Excalibur Cobras right here in the Milwaukee area. I know of at least 8...one was recently purchased by a fellow in Green Bay.

Regarding pricing... I'm too new to this to give an educated opinion.

I'm seeing prices for Excalibur Cobras range from $22,000- $75,000!

Consider:

* Excalibur Automobile Company with a distinctive 35 yr history
* SAE Certified Automobile Manuafcturer
* Largest Manufacturer of limited production autos
* Manufactured to DOT specs
* EPA compliant
* Sold with 2 year bumper to bumper warranty
* Limited production ( Less than 150?)

What's a good price? whatever it takes to get one in your garage!

Can you make it to the Kiltie Cruise in Oconomowoc Friday?

Remind me next time you're out...I have some stuff for you.

Tom

Les Veach · #17 (**permalink**) 06-03-2002, 11:12 PM

Some info found so far:
(hope this works):
- address for Car & Driver test of Excalibur 4/1996
http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...s=cobra&page=1

- address trying to get loaded that shows numerous Excaliburs but not finishing loading ????

http://perso.club-internet.fr/bunnik/5exc0001.htm

- Horseless Carriage Club of Missouri had one in show
Jim Fleming (314)469-6281

I am looking for a Cobra. In Research phase. Have down to:

Excalibur, Classic, West Coast, Emerson.

Would love to end up with an "Ex" if anyone has one.

Thanks.

Les

Chuckr1 · #18 (**permalink**) 06-05-2002, 09:18 AM

Howdy all,
I have a 97 Excalibur last 4 VIN "3166" If I recall, when I was dealing with Excalibur, it was one of the last cars they had planned on building.
The color is silver, no stripes
I actually got into it because someone had ordered the car and then backed out after manufacturing had begun. Otherwise, I would not have had a shot at the car and they were not making anymore from that point.

I would like to get together with anyone on this board that may have tech info, like copies of the manual, etc. Don't know if others have had the same experience, but the heat shield clamps on the side pipes keep breaking (I had Excalibur send me a few, but now have run out of them)and trying to find where I can get more.

AND has anybody found an easy way to replace the (*#$(@#$ battery?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and I look forward to discussions with other Excalibur owners....Thanks, ChuckR1

Chuckr1 · #19 (**permalink**) 06-05-2002, 09:48 AM

Blackjack,
I think I saw a post from you that said you were located in Vienna, Va. I am just down Rt 7 from you. I am very interested in who you have found to work on your Excalibur. I haven't really ran into issues, but want to establish a relationship with someone who can work on the car, before I need to go out try my luck on getting a competent person to do any work. Please reply if you can. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

BLACKJACK · #20 (**permalink**) 06-06-2002, 06:58 AM

HEY CHUCKR1,

CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING AN EXCALIBUR. IT'S A GREAT CAR.

I'M NO LONGER IN VIENNA, VA, MY HOME THERE EXPLODED AND BURNED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. I'M LIVING (TEMPORARILY) IN ASHBURN - EVEN CLOSER TO YOU. I WILL EVENTUALLY BUILD JUST WEST OF FRONT ROYAL.

I'M LOOKING FOR A SOURCE FOR HEAT SHIELD CLAMPS ALSO. MINE ARE REALLY "JURY RIGGED".

BATTERY ? WHAT BATTERY ? DOES THE EXCALIBUR HAVE A BATTERY? I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND IT. OH, WAIT - THERE IT IS - TUCKED IN UNDER AND BEHIND EVERYTHING.

IT LOOKS LIKE AN "ENGINE PULL" TO GET THE BATTERY OUT. IF I EVER HAVE TO PULL IT OUT - IT'S REPLACEMENT IS GOING INTO THE TRUNK.

CALL ME AND I'LL GIVE YOU INFO ON SERVICE SHOPS - ALSO ON THE "CAPITAL AREA COBRA CLUB" - A REALLY GREAT BUNCH OF FOLKS (50 PLUS MEMBERS) AND VERY ACTIVE.

OUR CACC WEB SITE IS: www.capitalareacobraclub.com. MY "SCREEN NAME" OVER THEIR IS "SUNDANCE" - IT'S ABOUT A FOUR BEER STORY. MY PHONE NUMBER IS 703-723-7276.

Y'ALL HAVE A REALLY GREAT DAY,

BLACKJACK