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07-25-2012, 10:57 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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Man. Rodknock posts about this awesome Cobra...........
In the words of, yet another Rodney...."Can we all just...get along?" 
And if a fight breaks out, I want to be on Chas' side. He's got my back.
Rodknock? Never trust a Rodney in a Kirkham who's bent on magnesium wheels. He might whack you over the head with a heavy Trigo.
Patrickt? The 't' stands for trouble.
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07-24-2012, 09:55 PM
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Bill has an exceptionally nice car. I don't think there is a better sounding Cobra in the world.
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07-25-2012, 05:46 AM
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Rods vs Malones???
Hmmmm.... Easy choice for me.
Even without the "those that shall remain unspoken"
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07-25-2012, 07:04 AM
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07-25-2012, 10:57 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: owned Kirkham for 11 years
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Bill has such a beauty, Can`t we all just get along(:
Maurice
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07-25-2012, 02:08 PM
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One factor that may have swayed customers away is the fact that they engine has a very high compression ratio, 13 to 1 in that area and will only run on race fuel, I know some will say if you can afford 150 grand you can afford race fuel, what happens if you actually want to go further than your home town, I know it would sway me.
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07-25-2012, 02:28 PM
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The fuel comment makes a lot of sense. One of my cars only runs on race gas and that necessity makes sense. Then again my car that requires this fuel only has an 18 gallon tank. If this Cobra has a 42 gallon fuel cell you can go a little farther if you are not driving it all that hard. I guess it all boils down to what you want to do with the car....distance or cruising around town. When this vehicle sells it will probably set the high water mark for fibreglass CSX cars given the powerplant and build quality.
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07-25-2012, 02:55 PM
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07-25-2012, 04:04 PM
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Kanuck and MHA provide some interesting new info about the car's build and engine.
I for one, thought all iron Cammer heads were no more than 12:1-sure that would beg race gas of some type. But I don't remember in Bill's Gasholes thread what he ultimately built it to. I do remember that he had to tear down and rebuild virtually everything after buying it fully assembled. He and his build buddy (forget the name) found a host of machining and poor part issues.
MHA-could you not take some timing out, say 2 to 4 degrees to get it to run on 100 octane? I wish I knew the chamber size and piston dome that caused 13:1. The fuel Cammer engines ran no where near that compression. Maybe a few of the 'Cup-destined engines did?? 
Can one of you contact Malone? If you tell him we're trying to help him sell it, I hope he'd chime in and give us more details on this excellent project.
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07-25-2012, 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Kanuck and MHA provide some interesting new info about the car's build and engine.
I for one, thought all iron Cammer heads were no more than 12:1-sure that would beg race gas of some type. But I don't remember in Bill's Gasholes thread what he ultimately built it to. I do remember that he had to tear down and rebuild virtually everything after buying it fully assembled. He and his build buddy (forget the name) found a host of machining and poor part issues.
MHA-could you not take some timing out, say 2 to 4 degrees to get it to run on 100 octane? I wish I knew the chamber size and piston dome that caused 13:1. The fuel Cammer engines ran no where near that compression. Maybe a few of the 'Cup-destined engines did??
Can one of you contact Malone? If you tell him we're trying to help him sell it, I hope he'd chime in and give us more details on this excellent project. |
93-page build thread, but somewhere buried in there the CR is 11:1. |
07-25-2012, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
93-page build thread, but somewhere buried in there the CR is 11:1.
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AHAAAA! Bless you pal-drove me nuts. May the Gods of Mg sprinkle some flakes in your (immaculate) garage. I knew Bill wouldn't build a gas burden like that into the car after all the other smart stuff he did. Much like Rodneym, Bill had a vision and plan and took it to completion.
MHA-thanks for the clarification and specs. I'm amazed they're 125cc chambers-my MR heads had 2.250" valves also but the chamber was tiny by comparison-78cc and 10.33:1 with a flat piston.
I should clarify, I meant ignition timing, not the cams. Putting the cams in + or - 4 degrees would not alter the octane requirement-just move the powerband up or down.
Kanuck-no harm, there's lots of mystery numbers floating around FE land.
Anyone seen hyde or hair of Malone??
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07-25-2012, 07:31 PM
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Anyone seen hyde or hair of Malone??
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07-25-2012, 04:51 PM
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My cammer is 11:1 and it runs on pump gas. I can tell you that the chamber size is 125cc. As for the pistons that depends on the manufacturer and specification. The reace gas gives you the extra power and in most cases you don't really need it. Perhaps Bill is using a thinner head gasket. In terms of timing the cams, that is a tricky thing to play around with. Jim Barillaro is the engine builder who machined and put mine together. He has been building these engines since 1969 and is very respected. He would be the one to ask about altering the timing of the cams. I am no expert in this realm. Butch Engelbrecht was the guy who helped Bill Malone with the initial machining problems. Bill ended up working out those kinks and others with some great people after he stopped working with Engelbrecht.
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07-25-2012, 05:51 PM
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I am sure I read it was more than that when they ad was on cobra country, it really caught my attention, regardless it was by no means a slam.
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07-25-2012, 11:38 PM
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If you know Bill, you know he is one of the most anal persons walking this planet when it comes to his cars. He had to have a cammer in this one...his previous car had a tunnel port.
He sweated the small stuff on this thing.
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07-26-2012, 12:47 PM
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If you know Bill, you know he is one of the most anal persons walking this planet when it comes to his cars. He had to have a cammer in this one...his previous car had a tunnel port.
He sweated the small stuff on this thing.
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Of course he's anal...he's a Gear Head from Joisey.
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07-26-2012, 12:02 AM
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I think this would be a very cool car, unusual and beautiful, wish I had the room and the $$. Good luck with the sale.
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07-26-2012, 05:13 AM
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Thank you for clearing that up Bill and good luck with the sale.
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07-26-2012, 08:29 AM
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Bill, thank you for posting.
If you get the time, then please post some updates to the thread pre and post auction for all us interested folks.
Maybe your car will get into the next Keith Martin's Sports Car Auction magazine.  |
07-26-2012, 08:30 AM
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Hello Bill,
Great to hear from you. Stunning car, followed the build every step of the way. The next owner will be extremely happy, regardless of what he/she spends.
Good luck in the sale and future business........and again, thanks for all your hard work in the CSX/HST inspection program. It sure kept me off the ledge. 
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