The coyote idles like a Cadillac. You can put a nice cam in the FE so that it will have that nice lumpy Cobra idle. Even if you do not want insane horsepower, I would think you want the whole Cobra image with the nice lumpy idle and the overall sound and effect. You will not get that with the Coyote engine. It purrs like a Camry
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The coyote idles like a Cadillac. You can put a nice cam in the FE so that it will have that nice lumpy Cobra idle. Even if you do not want insane horsepower, I would think you want the whole Cobra image with the nice lumpy idle and the overall sound and effect. You will not get that with the Coyote engine. It purrs like a Camry
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No you didn't... Alteast be honest when giving false info
Just for your info the DOHC Cammer and Coyote are the exact same engine in specs and size, hp and tq, both were used in grand am racing, and actually my Cammer put out more power than the Coyote, so your right in a way, keep up the Phantom tunes and pushing the tq less Coyoyte..
I guess I'll take the minority position on this one... I'd go coyote... for the smoother idle quality, driveability, & dependability... not to mention, the much better mileage.
My aluminum-blocked 427 Windsor stroker has a very snotty cam in it. It WILL idle around town, but is not happy doing so. Sure, it makes 612 hp/615 tq, tho it's extremely rare that those numbers actually get put to use.
If you want that "original" look, go FE... if you want the benefits of technology, go coyote. Both look great under the hood, tho in different ways... Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Uh, nope.
Uh Ya, do some research, cam profile the same, both 5.0 litre, oh ya the Coyote has a plastic intake, the DOHC magnesium, but like I said the Cammer put out more power, you will learn someday just have to use Google.. keep selling the Coyote, it's a good way to get them to buy a second car when they realize they should have gotten an FE..
My personal opinion is that a cobra should be loud, nasty, and have more power than you can handle. Going with EFI, radios, A/C, etc is just too "bimmer" or "corvette" for me.
In my mind, the coyote is just not cost effective...but to each their own.
My personal opinion is that a cobra should be loud, nasty, and have more power than you can handle. Going with EFI, radios, A/C, etc is just too "bimmer" or "corvette" for me.
In my mind, the coyote is just not cost effective...but to each their own.
Tell us about your Cobra? Or your bimmer, or your corvette? Or maybe our replica you get ice cream with on Sunday?
My personal opinion is if you write the check you also determine what your car and engine is. Perhaps you need some guidance, but when you list your wishes, then whoever you hand that check to needs to fulfill that as best they can.
A 2400# car "needs" about 400hp and a skilled driver to put 99% of us in embarrassment. The rest is do I measure above or below?
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Tell us about your Cobra? Or your bimmer, or your corvette? Or maybe our replica you get ice cream with on Sunday?
Them's sound like fightin words
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Just curious - why the general consensus suggests it is "OK" then to discuss the Coyote for a cobra but "taboo" to mention LS series?
If it were me, and I was going something other than an FE.
I'd politely skip over the coyote and probably go for an LS7.
It's small, light, stout makes more power without the requirement/expense/weight/complication of intercoolers, blowers and supercharging, has 6 bolt mains caps, forged internals, titanium rods, etc... still gets 30mpg, and (Now this is going to hurt ) at least it's a real 427
I'm just sayin' if you're going to compromise, compromise properly!
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Them's sound like fightin words
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Just curious - why the general consensus suggests it is "OK" then to discuss the Coyote for a cobra but "taboo" to mention LS series?
If it were me, and I was going something other than an FE.
I'd politely skip over the coyote and probably go for an LS7.
It's small, light, stout makes more power without the requirement/expense/weight/complication of intercoolers, blowers and supercharging, has 6 bolt mains caps, forged internals, titanium rods, etc... still gets 30mpg, and (Now this is going to hurt ) at least it's a real 427
I'm just sayin' if you're going to compromise, compromise properly!
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Originally Posted by Dimis
Them's sound like fightin words
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Just curious - why the general consensus suggests it is "OK" then to discuss the Coyote for a cobra but "taboo" to mention LS series?
If it were me, and I was going something other than an FE.
I'd politely skip over the coyote and probably go for an LS7.
It's small, light, stout makes more power without the requirement/expense/weight/complication of intercoolers, blowers and supercharging, has 6 bolt mains caps, forged internals, titanium rods, etc... still gets 30mpg, and (Now this is going to hurt ) at least it's a real 427
I'm just sayin' if you're going to compromise, compromise properly!
Hell yes!!!
My LS7 in my 07 Z06 produces an honest 650hp with heads and a small cam. I lays down about 620 lb ft of torque too. Where can you get a NA OEM small block that idles all day in traffic with the A/C on and still knock down 10.50s @ 137 with sticky tires??
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Tell us about your Cobra? Or your bimmer, or your corvette? Or maybe our replica you get ice cream with on Sunday?
My personal opinion is if you write the check you also determine what your car and engine is. Perhaps you need some guidance, but when you list your wishes, then whoever you hand that check to needs to fulfill that as best they can.
A 2400# car "needs" about 400hp and a skilled driver to put 99% of us in embarrassment. The rest is do I measure above or below?
My car weights 2100# and has 600hp, but who's counting...
Tell us about your Cobra? Or your bimmer, or your corvette? Or maybe our replica you get ice cream with on Sunday?
My personal opinion is if you write the check you also determine what your car and engine is. Perhaps you need some guidance, but when you list your wishes, then whoever you hand that check to needs to fulfill that as best they can.
A 2400# car "needs" about 400hp and a skilled driver to put 99% of us in embarrassment. The rest is do I measure above or below?
My Cobra was a Shell Valley replica, with a 428FE, 11:1 compression, solid roller cam, and a Tunnel Wedge. It was nasty and rowdy.
My Corvette was a '73, with a mild 350, CD player, cup holder, and other assorted niceties.
Not sure why you took offense to my post, but here's a gentleman wanting advice on which engine to go with. I gave my two pennies. I shouldn't be flamed for that should I? I didn't think so. I mean, I even gave the obligatory, "Just my opinion" statement in front of my paragraph.
My other opinion is that a Coyote is a huge cost for just 400hp....
Pete, now buddy, your car doesn't even have an engine yet....unless you went with another builder....???
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