Carroll Shelby and the "left over frames" saga?

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

no harm, no foul, constant vigilance is required to not fall prey to a buffoon's bait.
a quick recap of some of the bait used so far -

• cobras should have the options of a fully loaded caddy
• replica makers should rewicker their websites to cater to the justin bieber and miley cyrus fan club
• sidepipes were an add-on by replica makers to satisfy the hotrodders of the world
• can't beat nissan duracell power for a 100 foot drag race
• online racing with your logitech simulator beats the hell out of driving a V8 powered hotrod with cobra body

... need I say more? looking forward to the next cast to see what sucker bait is on the hook

corrections, sir:
These hot rods shaped like a Cobras are 60+ years technology. Who wants to drive today without a radio, cruise control, GPS, Nav systems, heated seats, power steering, automatics?

If JB or Miley were driving and promoting these hot rods shaped like a Cobra, there would be a spike on sales. Go tell Corvette bosses that putting a stingray in a movie aimed at young adults, Captain America 2, doesn't fit with their sales demographics.

gas engines cannot match electric torque. Go tell Ferrari, Porsche, McLaren, BMW, Tesla that they wasting their money on electric powered cars.

I don't own a "logictech" and you don't know anything about video games. If you did, u would have invested money into this industry.

I play racing games because I don't want to sweat in a hot rod without AC or a roof. I love air conditioning too much.

Last I checked, the majority of real cobras did not have side pipes.

Your obsession with me is a bit... weird.

best,
nyg

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

Who wants to drive today without a radio, cruise control, GPS, Nav systems, heated seats, power steering, automatics

ME! At least when it comes to a Cobra

And come on, now, video games don't cut it. Simulators either.

Come over for a ride and I'll give you an experience that will make you forget about a love doll, or whatever simulation you speak of

NYG, have you driven a Cobra? I was all set on a Ferrari, Maserati or a Lotus until I drove a Cobra. I haven't looked back at those cars since, unless it was in my rear view mirror.

You owe it to yourself.

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by rodneym

ME! At least when it comes to a Cobra

And come on, now, video games don't cut it. Simulators either.

Come over for a ride and I'll give you an experience that will make you forget about a love doll, or whatever simulation you speak of

NYG, have you driven a Cobra? I was all set on a Ferrari, Maserati or a Lotus until I drove a Cobra. I haven't looked back at those cars since, unless it was in my rear view mirror.

You owe it to yourself.

I have driven a home build FFR and a Backdraft RT3. The FFR was crap, looked and felt cheap. The RT3 was a better drive, well built hot rod.

Look, these hot rods are fantastic on the open road & wind in your hair experience but they are a sweat box in traffic. No roof, no AC, no cup holders, no radio, noisy, crappy seats, gas fumes in your face makes for a lousy ride.

I'd like to return to my original question. In your view, did Carroll Shelby swindle the public with these Cobras from the 1990s?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

I'd like to return to my original question. In your view, did Carroll Shelby swindle the public with these Cobras from the 1990s?

Buy a Registry and all your questions will be answered.

I'd also recommend buying a Honda Odyssey. They come with a built-in vacuum and that's a really a nice option to have.

I'm actually thinking of getting a built-in vacuum for my Kirkham, since I'm constantly getting donut crumbs and spilling coffee on the floor.

[rodneym]

I'm waiting for the Google Cobra.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by rodneym

I'm waiting for the Google Cobra.

Those would be WAY cool. Driverless Cobra's and you can use a joystick from home or office to "pilot" it just like a drone.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by rodneym

ME! At least when it comes to a Cobra

A/C in car without a top? You're killing the environment anyway.

Radio? The music today sucks. You must listen to the symphony of your chimney-smelling sidepipes.

Cup holders? Real men and women just put their coffee cups between their legs and drive.

GPS/Navi? No iPhone huh? Anyway, real men and women don't need directions. They always know where they're going. It's a Zen thing.

P/S? Come on, you know your flabby arms need some exercise. And Cruise Control? You know your flabby calves and weak tendons need the same help as your flabby arms.

Heated seats? Your butt (gluts in trainer's talk) is your body's biggest muscle. Big muscles aren't wimps. They can take the chill.

Automatic transmission? Real men and women don't flick buttons on a steering wheel or just let the car shift for itself. Think of shifting the transmission manually as mental exercise to ward off the onset of dementia.

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

A/C in car without a top? You're killing the environment anyway.

Radio? The music today sucks. You must listen to the symphony of your chimney-smelling sidepipes.

Cup holders? Real men and women just put their coffee cups between their legs and drive.

GPS/Navi? No iPhone huh? Anyway, real men and women don't need directions. They always know where they're going. It's a Zen thing.

P/S? Come on, you know your flabby arms need some exercise. And Cruise Control? You know your flabby calves and weak tendons need the same help as your flabby arms.

Heated seats? Your butt (gluts in trainer's talk) is your body's biggest muscle. Big muscles aren't wimps. They can take the chill.

Automatic transmission? Real men and women don't flick buttons on a steering wheel or just let the car shift for itself. Think of shifting the transmission manually as mental exercise to ward off the onset of dementia.

Man - you just about used up my whole library of cliches in the above. I love it! So true. I have a 427 Corvette with monster motor and no accessories and now my little Cobra without even a radio. Real men don't need no stinking air conditioning or power steering.

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

... I am building a hot rod shaped like a Cobra and that is the true. It won't have any Cobra badges and I won't call it anything else but a hot rod, maybe a rat-rod with Mad Max touches ...

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

... I play racing games because I don't want to sweat in a hot rod without AC or a roof. I love air conditioning too much ...

Constantly at war with one's alter ego, must be a biatch!
I wonder which one is going to win out, the gaming wonder or the armchair quarterback

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

Constantly at war with one's alter ego, must be a biatch!
I wonder which one is going to win out, the gaming wonder or the armchair quarterback

Good thing these hot rods have trunks, need storage for lawn chairs and SAAC books.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

Good thing these hot rods have trunks, need storage for lawn chairs and SAAC books.

Realistically, Volume I is quite a big book, so all you will be able to fit with the book in the trunk are the armrests of the lawn chairs.

[buddyg]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

corrections, sir:
These hot rods shaped like a Cobras are 60+ years technology. Who wants to drive today without a radio, cruise control, GPS, Nav systems, heated seats, power steering, automatics?


Pretty much most of the people who own Cobras


If JB or Miley were driving and promoting these hot rods shaped like a Cobra, there would be a spike on sales. Go tell Corvette bosses that putting a stingray in a movie aimed at young adults, Captain America 2, doesn't fit with their sales demographics.


Who wants a spike in sales I like the fact you don't see a Cobra every day of the week and I sure as heck don't want to drive the same thing as those 2 fools.


I play racing games because I don't want to sweat in a hot rod without AC or a roof. I love air conditioning too much.

You are definitely not in the right place go back to your Prius forum


nyg

You have a lot to say for a guy who doesn't own a Cobra

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by buddyg

You have a lot to say for a guy who doesn't own a Cobra

You don't own a cobra. Check SAAC registry.

You own a nice hot rod in the shape of cobra.

[ACademic]

Buddyg, just ignore that response. It's NewYorkGuy's world...We just live in it.

[buddyg]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

You don't own a cobra. Check SAAC registry.

You own a nice hot rod in the shape of cobra.

I don't give a crap what you, SAAC or Real1 says to me it's a Cobra and that's all that matters. Now go back, play your video game and eat a Popsicle

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by buddyg

I don't give a crap what you, SAAC or Real1 says to me it's a Cobra and that's all that matters. Now go back, play your video game and eat a Popsicle

Yes. Of course you have a "Cobra". Yes you do. Don't pay any attention to that silly little Registry and reality since the real reality is in your head. Can't let the facts get in way of fantasy.

[Dominik]

All aside, what we are seeing here is the a generation gap.

The original question is mostly answered, and if was in marketing I would get a newcomer like NYG on my side and rethink marketing of my Cobras.

The essence (now I pretend I am in marketing) is: Get the youngsters in your car and haul them around a racetrack. One lap is enough.

Or a 1/4 mile. There is nothing more convincing than noise, smoke and wheel spin halfway to the 1/4 mile mark, with a bit of sideways when shifting. Use old tires. Wheel spin sells. Traction won't.

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by Dominik

All aside, what we are seeing here is the a generation gap.

The original question is mostly answered, and if was in marketing I would get a newcomer like NYG on my side and rethink marketing of my Cobras.

The essence (now I pretend I am in marketing) is: Get the youngsters in your car and haul them around a racetrack. One lap is enough.

Or a 1/4 mile. There is nothing more convincing than noise, smoke and wheel spin halfway to the 1/4 mile mark, with a bit of sideways when shifting. Use old tires. Wheel spin sells. Traction won't.

My group of car friends have done track days, drag strips, street racing, virtual track. We are not dumb car posers who can't change a tire; we are engineers, math wizards, scientists.

Mr. Shelby was a great inventor but he was also a shady businessman. Car fans seem to gloss over facts and lawsuits because, well, he was Carroll Shelby, the chicken farmer from Texas, created the Cobra, gt40, daytona, beat Enzo...so on and so on.

Reminds me of my childhood in NYC, little Italy. My family knew a guy named John Gotti, Sr. He kissed a lot of babies, donated money, a family guy. My dad said he hugged me once. I don't remember. My dad was polite to him but he never did any business or associated with him but John was a great guy in public.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Yes. Of course you have a "Cobra". Yes you do. Don't pay any attention to that silly little Registry and reality since the real reality is in your head. Can't let the facts get in way of fantasy.

Actually, you ought to listen to yourself.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Actually, you ought to listen to yourself.

Around here I do. I'm the only one who gets the facts and reality. It's all in that authoritative reference you cited to but selectively ignore.