Cobra replica alum body by Alloycars on ebay

[REAL 1]

[QUOTE=twobjshelbys;1331114]"Well, OK Tom, how about providing us with the following:

Get one of your happy customers to send us photos of the completed vehicle with power train installed and registered somewhere.

The more the better because 1 does not make any kind of trustworthy source.

In fact, even one of your other vehicles would go a long way towards establishing trust. I see all kinds of references to other things, but noone even here has stepped in and said "yeah, I saw one of those and was (impressed, depressed)".

Right now you have zero, no, negative, credibility..."



Bingo. Zactly. Was about to say the same.

Look Alloycars this thread is not going well for you...in fact its going quite badly for you and getting worse. I could pile on with some of my own observations but I will not. Instead I offer the following advice.

This is all about credibility of which you seem to have squandered at the outset in a multitude of ways.

Right now you have three choices as I see it.

1. Continue being argumentative and combative with the members (many of whom are very knowledgeable and have been around Cobras and replicas thereof for decades) which is being viewed worldwide by many other Cobra enthusiasts. (This would not be my choice btw).

2. Go away and not come back.

3. Go away and come back with some credible proof that you have sold and completed workmanlike replicas in arruminum for at least a sampling of your claimed 150 customers. E.g. Customer photos and testimonials might help.

Using photos of others products for your sales sites does not get you off to a roaring start here but I guess you figured that out by now.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

[QUOTE=twobjshelbys;1331114]"Well, OK Tom, how about providing us with the following:

Get one of your happy customers to send us photos of the completed vehicle with power train installed and registered somewhere.

The more the better because 1 does not make any kind of trustworthy source.

In fact, even one of your other vehicles would go a long way towards establishing trust. I see all kinds of references to other things, but noone even here has stepped in and said "yeah, I saw one of those and was (impressed, depressed)".

Right now you have zero, no, negative, credibility..."



Bingo. Zactly. Was about to say the same.

Look Alloycars this thread is not going well for you...in fact its going quite badly for you and getting worse. I could pile on with some of my own observations but I will not. Instead I offer the following advice.

This is all about credibility of which you seem to have squandered at the outset in a multitude of ways.

Right now you have three choices as I see it.

1. Continue being argumentative and combative with the members (many of whom are very knowledgeable and have been around Cobras and replicas thereof for decades) which is being viewed worldwide by many other Cobra enthusiasts. (This would not be my choice btw).

2. Go away and not come back.

3. Go away and come back with some credible proof that you have sold and completed workmanlike replicas in arruminum for at least a sampling of your claimed 150 customers. E.g. Customer photos and testimonials might help.

Using photos of others products for your sales sites does not get you off to a roaring start here but I guess you figured that out by now.

I will go one further and offer to have a completed car shipped to the location of this club's choice within the next 5 days for inspection. I would use Reliable Carriers and have it insured for the trip.
Clock starts now....

[BevanWright]

Originally Posted by Bernica

I will go one further and offer to have a completed car shipped to the location of this club's choice within the next 5 days for inspection. I would use Reliable Carriers and have it insured for the trip.
Clock starts now....

What a dumb demand. If these guys produced and sold cars from south Africa, why would they ship one to the USA for you guys to look at?

Give alloy cars a chance, it is obvious the salesman is a bit over enthusiastic, and silly to use others photos, but...make some cars and show us.

[rodneym]

BevanWright,
Alloycars makes them in Florida. They claim to have sold 150 to South America.
Yet no pics.
No satisfied customers to speak of.
No one's heard of them.
They use other manufacturer's photos.
We gave them a chance.
It's time to put up or shut up.
And if I'm not mistaken, they've chosen to shut up.
The internet is a game changer. If you think about it, this all happened very fast.
In the old days, there would have been dozens of sob stories and unfinished Cobras.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by BevanWright

What a dumb demand. If these guys produced and sold cars from south Africa, why would they ship one to the USA for you guys to look at?

Give alloy cars a chance, it is obvious the salesman is a bit over enthusiastic, and silly to use others photos, but...make some cars and show us.

The car doesn't have to ship to USA. This site has members worldwide from South Africa to South America to Australia to Europe. All he needs to do is tells us where one is and I'm pretty sure we can have someone have a look at it.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by Bernica

The car doesn't have to ship to USA. This site has members worldwide from South Africa to South America to Australia to Europe. All he needs to do is tells us where one is and I'm pretty sure we can have someone have a look at it.

Sorry...I left out Canada, Finland, Greenland, Poland and Russia. Didn't want anyone to feel left out!

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by Bernica

I would use Reliable Carriers and have it insured for the trip.
Clock starts now....

4 Days left...

[wouter37]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

[QUOTE=twobjshelbys;1331114]"Well, OK Tom, how about providing us with the following:

Get one of your happy customers to send us photos of the completed vehicle with power train installed and registered somewhere.

The more the better because 1 does not make any kind of trustworthy source.

In fact, even one of your other vehicles would go a long way towards establishing trust. I see all kinds of references to other things, but noone even here has stepped in and said "yeah, I saw one of those and was (impressed, depressed)".

Right now you have zero, no, negative, credibility..."



Bingo. Zactly. Was about to say the same.

Look Alloycars this thread is not going well for you...in fact its going quite badly for you and getting worse. I could pile on with some of my own observations but I will not. Instead I offer the following advice.

This is all about credibility of which you seem to have squandered at the outset in a multitude of ways.

Right now you have three choices as I see it.

1. Continue being argumentative and combative with the members (many of whom are very knowledgeable and have been around Cobras and replicas thereof for decades) which is being viewed worldwide by many other Cobra enthusiasts. (This would not be my choice btw).

2. Go away and not come back.

3. Go away and come back with some credible proof that you have sold and completed workmanlike replicas in arruminum for at least a sampling of your claimed 150 customers. E.g. Customer photos and testimonials might help.

Using photos of others products for your sales sites does not get you off to a roaring start here but I guess you figured that out by now.

Option 4. Ship a free aluminium cobra body to me in the Netherlands and I will build a Cobra with that body then I will make photos for this forum. :-)

[jimgood]

Tom of AlloyCars,

You really cut your own throat in two major ways:

1. You used photos of finished cars that were not yours to advertise your product. That automatically caused mistrust in the community of potential buyers for your product.

2. You came to this site and posted a hostile response to what was a hostile thread. If you knew ANYTHING about sales, you'd know that the last thing you should have done was react in a hostile manner!

If you want any credibility in this industry, you should apologize personally to the people from whom you swiped the pictures and publicly to the community at large. Then you should get yourself a copy editor because your English sucks in print and is just pissing people off more and more. You may have a perfectly viable product in the pipeline but it's never going to get off the ground if you can't speak about it in an intelligible, professional manner.

Best of luck.