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NewYorkGuy 12-20-2014 10:28 AM

Cobra replica alum body by Alloycars on ebay
 
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1ntCobra 12-20-2014 12:57 PM

Their turnkey car with small block ford engine is $98,950.00.

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The roller version is $76,650.00.

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The ebay page says it is VIN #1. Does anyone with that kind of money want to be the first customer? Or would you prefer to go the safe route with a Kirkham instead?

patrickt 12-20-2014 01:16 PM

I went to their live feed cameras. Here's a rip from a car currently being built. The hip curves and rear don't look right.%/

http://208.255.159.239/alumcar.jpg

1985 CCX 12-20-2014 01:18 PM

I agree.
Wonder if the use a CSX buck or one from a glass replica. ?

1985 CCX 12-20-2014 01:22 PM

I do like the Porsche alloy car though.

twobjshelbys 12-20-2014 03:07 PM

Wasn't there a guy who worked for this place putting out "if I build it would you buy it" feelers a while ago?

G-Pete 12-20-2014 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1330705)
I went to their live feed cameras. Here's a rip from a car currently being built. The hip curves and rear don't look right.%/

http://208.255.159.239/alumcar.jpg


Looks like (including the perky butt) a Factory 5 Mk. III and they use the same Quick Jacks as FF5.

rodneym 12-20-2014 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1985 CCX (Post 1330706)
Wonder if the use a CSX buck or one from a glass replica. ?

Not a CSX or accurate otherwise. The closeup of the front shows a bevel or raised collar around the turn signal. Among other things. And that roll bar...
I never understood. You go to all that trouble, might as well make it accurate.

Bill D 12-20-2014 05:41 PM

Still not bad looking

mrmustang 12-20-2014 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill D (Post 1330759)
Still not bad looking

But not worth the asking price for what it is vs what a comparable Kirkham cost.


Bill S.

G-Pete 12-20-2014 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1330741)
I never understood. You go to all that trouble, might as well make it accurate.

...missing love and passion...

David Kirkham 12-20-2014 07:52 PM

Hmmm. Sure looks like one of ours to me???
 
Gents,

Sorry for the long delay in posting. It has been a very busy year for us here at Kirkham Motorsports.

After looking at this image on eBay I really think this is a picture of one of our machines. There are some very, very subtle shapes and things I think really gives it away. I have no idea who these people are. I have never heard of them.

As with any purchase...I think verification may be advised.

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...m/Ebay_car.JPG

David Kirkham 12-20-2014 07:55 PM

After looking further at the other listed photos on the same eBay sale I think it is evident the body in the main picture and the other pictured body in the listing are quite different from each other. I really think the main picture is of our machine.

David
:confused::confused::confused:

Tom Kirkham 12-20-2014 08:11 PM

From the ebay add:
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...medium/572.JPG
Please note the picture is flipped. Goodyear lettering on tires is flipped. The gas cap is on the wrong side of the car for both England as well as the USA.

Now here is the image flipped back. Note how much easier it is to read Goodyear on the tires.
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...rs_flipped.jpg

Some observations: Hood scoop, rear fender lips, front fender flares, oil cooler scoop, headlight support area, all look very different in the photos of the uncompleted car in the ebay ad photos vs. the above photos. Logo on the front hub cap looks very familiar. Exhaust system is also very unique to Kirkham Motorsports.

I do not work for Kirkham Motorsports

LMH 12-20-2014 09:38 PM

The company is Alloycars Inc. I'm familiar with them and their 550 Spyder. It is extremely accurate, even down to the rivet pattern on body panels. Original factory drawings were used to build the replica. It's very nice and very accurate!
As for the Cobra replica though, I don't know anything about it.
Alloycars Porsche 550 Spyder aluminum replica / Kit Cars

Larry

twobjshelbys 12-20-2014 10:16 PM

So search for them in the forum. There are two topics from a guy that worked for them and was going to take his work out on his own looking to size the market. I'd run away from this

Paul F 12-20-2014 10:25 PM

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/all-...-opinions.html

"our molds came from some un-named kit body that was available (never assembled) at the time. "

Dimis 12-21-2014 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham (Post 1330783)

I do not work for Kirkham Motorsports

Well more importantly, this is news to me...

FatBoy 12-21-2014 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimis (Post 1330799)
Well more importantly, this is news to me...

Keep up. ;)

Tom hasn't worked for KMS for quite some time now. If I recall correctly, he was working on an off-road vehicle project with some very trick suspension.

Paul

1ntCobra 12-21-2014 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys (Post 1330795)
So search for them in the forum. There are two topics from a guy that worked for them and was going to take his work out on his own looking to size the market. I'd run away from this

I don't know about running away from them, since it looks like they are an established company with their Porche 550 replica.

However there are a number of things to consider:
- Apparently they are selling their first Cobra replica and it is not finished yet, but they have pictures on their website of completed cars, which obviously is NOT their car. I think David is being polite saying that the picture of the polished car from the eBay ad is probably a Kirkham. That picture is clearly a finished Kirkham. The picture of the blue car on their website looks like a FFR to me. The black car looks like a CSX4000 in front of the Shelby Vegas building.

http://alloycars.com/images/img0052.png

http://alloycars.com/images/img0043.png

http://alloycars.com/images/Alloycar...ter%20(14).jpg


- Their car is not as "authentic" as a Kirkham:
-- Their frame is not authentic, like a Kirkham frame. They are using a FFR frame.
-- The hood scoop looks wrong.
-- FFR style trunk hinges (as seen in live picture grabbed by patrickt)
-- Rear wheel arches look odd in picture below (but that could just be the lighting?)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzQ1WDYyNA...UlbA3/$_12.JPG

-- Headlights and oil cooler scoop look a little odd to me (maybe its just the focal length of the lens used to take the picture?)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA...UlbA3/$_12.JPG

Let's think about value for dollar compared to a Kirkham roller:
- This car has a solid rear axle standard versus Kirkham independent rear suspension.
- This car has a FFR frame with presumably compatible suspension components from a Mustang (I guess) versus Kirkham with authentic frame, billet suspension, Wilwood brakes, etc.
- What is the finish on this car (painted?, filed?, brushed?, polished?) for their price versus we know the prices for a Kirkham for filed, brushed or polished.

There is not enough detail from their website to really figure out yet what their car is worth compared to what we know gets delivered by Kirkham.


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